C&W east coast flap this afternoon?
Around 1340 EST today, all four of our C&W connections (1 each of BAR-1 and 2 to both Atlanta/ALD and WashDC/DCK) flapped (physical circuit down/up) simultaneously, followed by BGP flaps on all four about ten minutes later. Anyone else notice C&W getting weird? Or could this be related to the switchover to New Edge Networks (*grumble*)? -j
We see instability from certain prefixes originated by C&W around this time (indeed, they seem to be showing up across many of our views). See http://bgp.lcs.mit.edu/bgpview.cgi?time=between&start=2002-11-5+12%3A00%3A00&end=2002-11-5+15%3A00%3A00&bins=50&prefix=&rel=eq&aspath=&asrel=contain&origin_as=3561&scale=linear&table=aros_ron_lcs_mit_edu_updates&action=plotlist&View=View for example. Other views at AS 3130, 11085, etc. show similar flapping around that time for the same prefixes. However, we don't see widespread C&W flapping at that time. -Nick On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 07:00:03PM -0500, Jonathan Disher wrote:
Around 1340 EST today, all four of our C&W connections (1 each of BAR-1 and 2 to both Atlanta/ALD and WashDC/DCK) flapped (physical circuit down/up) simultaneously, followed by BGP flaps on all four about ten minutes later.
Anyone else notice C&W getting weird? Or could this be related to the switchover to New Edge Networks (*grumble*)?
-j
C&W is divesting itself of a lot of "real estate" these days. It struck a deal with Primus concerning its voice customers (last week), now its DSL customers to New Edge. Moreover, the BBC reports today that C&W is cutting 3500 jobs worldwide and "also announced heavy losses." C&W announced that it was cutting 23 of its 42 "data centres around the world." (The losses this past year exceed $6.5 Billion.) Peter ----------------------------------------------------------- Peter H. Salus Chief Knowledge Officer, Matrix NetSystems Ste. 300 5001 Plaza on the Lake Austin, TX 78746 +1 512 697-0613 -----------------------------------------------------------
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Peter Salus wrote:
C&W is divesting itself of a lot of "real estate" these days. It struck a deal with Primus concerning its voice customers (last week), now its DSL customers to New Edge.
New Edge is also getting their non-enterprise (i.e. T1, frac DS3) customers. We got our first strong-arm letter on October 11th threatening disconnection if we didn't sign a migration authorization. Yesterday we got notice that our T1's get shut off on December 31st.
Moreover, the BBC reports today that C&W is cutting 3500 jobs worldwide and "also announced heavy losses." C&W announced that it was cutting 23 of its 42 "data centres around the world."
(The losses this past year exceed $6.5 Billion.)
This doesn't surprise me. Exodus lost their shirts buying GlobalCenter. Then C&W bought Exodus. Granted, it's not the only reason for losing money. But it's undoubtedly a big contributor. -j
C&W is moving any customers that are not directly connected to a C&W owned node to New Edge. I am a C&W T-1 Customer in the Phoenix, AZ market on the N3 network and we will not be moving anywhere. --- Jonathan Disher <jdisher@parad.net> wrote:
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Peter Salus wrote:
C&W is divesting itself of a lot of "real estate" these days. It struck a deal with Primus concerning its voice customers (last week), now its DSL customers to New Edge.
New Edge is also getting their non-enterprise (i.e. T1, frac DS3) customers. We got our first strong-arm letter on October 11th threatening disconnection if we didn't sign a migration authorization. Yesterday we got notice that our T1's get shut off on December 31st.
Moreover, the BBC reports today that C&W is cutting 3500 jobs worldwide and "also announced heavy losses." C&W announced that it was cutting 23 of its 42 "data centres around the world."
(The losses this past year exceed $6.5 Billion.)
This doesn't surprise me. Exodus lost their shirts buying GlobalCenter. Then C&W bought Exodus. Granted, it's not the only reason for losing money. But it's undoubtedly a big contributor.
-j
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Andy Ellifson wrote:
C&W is moving any customers that are not directly connected to a C&W owned node to New Edge. I am a C&W T-1 Customer in the Phoenix, AZ market on the N3 network and we will not be moving anywhere.
We are also connected to the N3 network (2 T1's to Atlanta/ALD, 2 T1's to WashDC/DCK). Phoenix may not be on their first-to-cut list. -j
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