At 7:55 PM -0500 8/2/01, Larry Sheldon wrote:

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But in the meantime, I am going to allege that the default .cf that HP sends with H-PUX 10.20 and 11.0 has it in it.

Blame your vendor, not the software author, then.

Don't really think I was blaming anybody, exactly. The topic drift is pretty fierce here, and I won't play IsaidShesaidYousaid with anybody-- but I think the point somebody was trying to make was that MAPS is deeply embedded in the world (probably aided, abetted and assisted by people close to MAPS) and that yanking MAPS support out from under that base could have been expected to have "unanticipated" consequences. I think I also tried to say that it might have been possible to give better warning, and enlisted the assistance of a friendly community instead of opening fire on them. And if that is too inflamatory, I'm sorry, and I'm tired.

Again, the OP implied some sinister conspiracy to incorporate the dnsbl code into sendmail defaults where none exists. If you are blindly doing what $VENDOR tells you to do without actually knowing the results and consequences of those actions, I'd like to become your vendor. :)

If I implied "sinister" [1] or "conspiracy" I'm sorry--I did not mean to do that. I meant to explicitly say there were missed opportunities, bad planning, poor planning, no planning, and a PR effort that was not even wrong. We have more important things to be doing. [1] that is actually unlikely, since my left-handed friends tend to bruise me badly when I do that.