Off topic : Re: [apnic-talk] Please Moderate or close this list .... (fwd)
I've seen it all. Apnic decides to Censor... Is Cisco sanctioning censorship too? I would think so if Mr. Greene is posting from a corporate account. Would someone from Cisco wish to comment? Marc Hurst Fastlane.Ca Toronto, Canada ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 16:38:36 +0800 From: David R. Conrad <davidc@apnic.net> To: bgreene@cisco.com Cc: APNIC-TALK@apnic.net Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] Please Moderate or close this list .... Barry, As you have seen, the APNIC Executive Council has decided to attempt to alleviate the situation by simply removing the primary cause instead of closing and/or moderating the list. While the apnic-talk list is intended to be an open discussion list where people are free to participate as much or as little as they feel appropriate, with that freedom comes a responsibility to not be disruptive and/or discourage discussion by others. As it was felt Jim Fleming had not lived up to that responsibility, the chair of the APNIC Executive Council has indicated for the first time in the history of APNIC that the rather extreme action of removal from APNIC mailing lists was appropriate. Regards, -drc ---------------- At 10:02 PM 5/18/98 +0800, Barry Raveendran Greene wrote:
To the APNIC Executive Consul,
Please moderate and/or close this list to APNIC members only.
I'm willing to lose personal access to the APNIC-Talk in return for the APNIC members to have a forum were they can discuss things.
Thanks,
Barry
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I've seen it all. Apnic decides to Censor... Is Cisco sanctioning censorship too? I would think so if Mr. Greene is posting from a corporate account.
Would someone from Cisco wish to comment?
Sure. That's a stretch, Marc; I believe Barry was not suggesting censorship. APNIC-TALK has historically been a forum for APNIC users; Barry presumably subscribed to the list because a lot of those folks are Cisco customers he's responsible for, and his subscription was a convenient out-of-band way for him to be aware of their concerns and perhaps respond to imminent problems before escalation to the customer calling for service. Barry observed that APNIC-TALK's historic function was being hindered by Mr. Fleming's postings, and he suggested two ways of dealing with the perceived problem: leaving the list open and moderating it, or closing it. In the latter case, he said that he would - for the welfare of the members of the closed list - forego the convenience of his subscription, since (presumably) he is no more a member of the target group than Mr. Fleming. There are lots of moderated and closed lists, and Cisco people participate in them as they need to, to get their jobs done. That fact is unrelated to Cisco sanctioning anything at all. Although neither you nor I believe in censorship, we both participate in the (closed) domain-policy list - with exactly zero implications for the corporate beliefs of our employers or ourselves. -s
On Fri, 22 May 1998, Stephen Wolff wrote:
Although neither you nor I believe in censorship, we both participate in the (closed) domain-policy list - with exactly zero implications for the corporate beliefs of our employers or ourselves. > > -s Sorry,> Regardless of whomever I have worked for my discussions, and my postings where they concern my views, have ALWAYS been from my personal address at fastlane.ca> >
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