Sorry to interupt the rancher vs cattleman range war.... Can anyone point me to a contact person at Apple to answer a network/security query? Thank you; you may resume shooting. -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433