Hi all - Regarding RBN at NANOG 12...I think it is worth pointing out that: 1) RBN offered to fly in for NANOG 12 and provide casting to the NANOG community for free, given a net connection and mixed audio and video feed, 2) RBN casting didn't work well during Monday because of connectivity issues, not because of any inherent problems with the technology, 3) no one else had stepped up to the plate to help get the MBone magic set up (although we did not ask the nanog list, we did make contacts with volunteers who had done this stuff in the past.) Personally, I think we owe RBN a thanks and an apology -- they cast meetings almost every day for a fee, and went to considerable expense to do this for us, but they didn't get a sufficient chance to demonstrate their technology and provide the service to the community. As for providing source code, open architecture stuff... The #1 intent of casting NANOGs is to provide the content to the broader community. This is a different goal than to advocate certain forms of communications technology. Bill -------------------------------------------------------------- William B. Norton <wbn@merit.edu> (734) 764-9430 (New Area Code)