Re: Allocation of IP Addresses
[excessive cc trimmed] At 04:17 AM 3/14/96 GMT, nelson@crynwr.com wrote:
And it gets worse -- just WHAT is the meaning of "owning" an IP address. Hell, I could claim to own all the class A addresses (in fact, I actually do -- I've just never asserted my claim [ yet -- you'll be hearing from my lawyer]). An IP address is just an entry in a database, without the cooperation of all the backbone providers. So AT&T buys all the addresses; everyone laughs at them, and starts up another Internet in parallel with AT&T's, and puts a network address translator between the new Internet, and AT&T's old Internet.
See?
No, I don't 'see'. Most of the discussion that has been held on Paul Resnick's 'Suggestions for Market-Based Allocation of IP Address Blocks' seems to imply that once IP addresses are economic commodities, then they will indeed be 'owned' in the traditional sense, much the way one buys or sells a used car. I'm of the opinion that this approach is seriously flawed, in that it almost encourages those entities with deep pockets to hoard address space. Any amount of fairness is removed from the equation altogether. I'm sorry -- I can't agree with this model, but hey, that's just me. Perhaps others vehemently agree, perhaps not. In any event, I believe that some economic incentive is indeed appropriate; perhaps the route [prefix] charging model will be the prevailing method, but that is for the providers to determine, not for the IETF. - paul
Paul Ferguson writes:
I'm of the opinion that this approach is seriously flawed, in that it almost encourages those entities with deep pockets to hoard address space.
How? I've explained why it can't happen -- now you explain how it could happen (and I'll explain how you're wrong, and you'll explain how I'm wrong, and Paul Vixie will flame us both).
Any amount of fairness is removed from the equation altogether.
Oh? And @Home getting a humongo allocation is fair? Essentially what you're saying is that you think addresses should be allocated by political power. And who gets them then? The politically powerful. That's fair? -russ <nelson@crynwr.com> http://www.crynwr.com/~nelson Crynwr Software | Crynwr Software sells packet driver support | PGP ok 11 Grant St. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | If you would seek peace, Potsdam, NY 13676 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | first seek freedom
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