Here at planet (AS8737) we also having problems reaching msn/hotmail/messenger. Seems that C&W are also having problems reaching microsoft?? regards, Arjan -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of kwallace@pcconnection.com Sent: maandag 23 februari 2004 23:53 To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: possible L3 issues anyone else seeing high latency via L3 , especially the west coast ? - Keith
C&W seems to be doing fine towards Microsoft, are you still experiencing problems...? Cheers, Erik On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 00:23, Arjan Lugtenberg wrote:
Here at planet (AS8737) we also having problems reaching msn/hotmail/messenger.
Seems that C&W are also having problems reaching microsoft??
regards,
Arjan
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of kwallace@pcconnection.com Sent: maandag 23 februari 2004 23:53 To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: possible L3 issues
anyone else seeing high latency via L3 , especially the west coast ? - Keith -- Erik Haagsman Network Architect We Dare BV tel: +31(0)10-7507008 fax: +31(0)10-7507005 http://www.we-dare.nl
http://news.com.com/2100-1038_3-5163931.html?tag=nefd_top A Level 3 spokesman would not confirm or deny that hardware was the source of the problem, nor would he elaborate on the nature of the issue. "We are investigating the cause of the problem, which is fully resolved at this time," said Arthur Hodges, the spokesman. He declined to offer additional information.
And we, the general Internet public, tends to just accept this and forget about it. Why do we do this? On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Sean Donelan wrote:
http://news.com.com/2100-1038_3-5163931.html?tag=nefd_top
A Level 3 spokesman would not confirm or deny that hardware was the source of the problem, nor would he elaborate on the nature of the issue.
"We are investigating the cause of the problem, which is fully resolved at this time," said Arthur Hodges, the spokesman. He declined to offer additional information.
-- Alex Rubenstein, AR97, K2AHR, alex@nac.net, latency, Al Reuben -- -- Net Access Corporation, 800-NET-ME-36, http://www.nac.net --
* alex@nac.net (Alex Rubenstein) [Tue 24 Feb 2004, 18:13 CET]:
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Sean Donelan wrote:
http://news.com.com/2100-1038_3-5163931.html?tag=nefd_top A Level 3 spokesman would not confirm or deny that hardware was the source of the problem, nor would he elaborate on the nature of the issue. And we, the general Internet public, tends to just accept this and forget about it.
Why do we do this?
I can't speak for others, but in my case it's because I'm not a customer. -- Niels. -- Today's subliminal thought is:
Because, in the the grand scale scheme of things, it's really not that important. No one died because of it, the normal, everyday events of the world went on, unaffected by a Level 3 outage... Might be nice to know what happened, but my life will certainly not be less interesting by not having that knowledge... -colin. On 25 Feb 2004, at 4:13 AM, Alex Rubenstein wrote:
And we, the general Internet public, tends to just accept this and forget about it.
Why do we do this?
Are you sure no one died as a result? My hobby is volunteering as a firefighter and EMT. If Level3's network sits between a dispatch center or mobile data terminal and a key resource, it could be a factor (hospital status website, hazardous materials action guide, VoIP link that didn't reroute because the control plane was happy but the forwarding plane was sad, etc.). And if the problem could happen to another network tomorrow but could be prevented or patched, wouldn't inquiring minds want to know? Your life might be more interesting when the fit hits the shan if you have the same vulnerability. Colin Neeson wrote:
Because, in the the grand scale scheme of things, it's really not that important.
No one died because of it, the normal, everyday events of the world went on, unaffected by a Level 3 outage...
Might be nice to know what happened, but my life will certainly not be less interesting by not having that knowledge...
So cmon, forget the statement, anyone know what actually happened.. ? Steve On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Pete Templin wrote:
Are you sure no one died as a result? My hobby is volunteering as a firefighter and EMT. If Level3's network sits between a dispatch center or mobile data terminal and a key resource, it could be a factor (hospital status website, hazardous materials action guide, VoIP link that didn't reroute because the control plane was happy but the forwarding plane was sad, etc.).
And if the problem could happen to another network tomorrow but could be prevented or patched, wouldn't inquiring minds want to know? Your life might be more interesting when the fit hits the shan if you have the same vulnerability.
Colin Neeson wrote:
Because, in the the grand scale scheme of things, it's really not that important.
No one died because of it, the normal, everyday events of the world went on, unaffected by a Level 3 outage...
Might be nice to know what happened, but my life will certainly not be less interesting by not having that knowledge...
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