FW: Photos of Palestinians celebrating World Trade Center attack
----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Jacob <mailto:jeffj@mysticom.com> To: Jeff Jacob <mailto:jeffj@mysticom.com> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:37 AM Subject: Photos of Palestinians celebrating World Trade Center attack Notice that many of the Palestinians hold up their fingers in a gesture of peace. Is this the kind of cruel "peace" that they are advocating? Palestinians celebrate at the Shatila camp in Beirut <http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1535000/images/_1538271_clap_afp_300.jpg> Many Palestinians at refugee camps in Lebanon celebrated after hearing news of the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon Children celebrate in east Jerusalem <http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1535000/images/_1538271_kids_ap_300.jpg> Palestinian children in eastern Jerusalem celebrating news of the terror attacks in the United States Lebanon <http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1535000/images/_1538861_1celebs300.jpg> Palestinians in Lebanon celebrating the attacks Guns fired at refugee camp in Lebanon <http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1540000/images/_1540102_gun150.jpg> Palestinian man fires a rifle in the air in celebration over the World Trade Center collapse reaction <http://a388.g.akamai.net/f/388/21/1d/www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/09/12/mi deast.reaction/story.children.ap.jpg> Palestinian children near eastern Jerusalem's Old City as news of the attacks spread
V- gesture will mean Victory and not peace. Alex Avtsin Network Engineer ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Mirsky To: 'nanog@merit.edu' Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 1:33 PM Subject: FW: Photos of Palestinians celebrating World Trade Center attack ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Jacob To: Jeff Jacob Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:37 AM Subject: Photos of Palestinians celebrating World Trade Center attack Notice that many of the Palestinians hold up their fingers in a gesture of peace. Is this the kind of cruel "peace" that they are advocating?
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Alexander Avtsin wrote: > V- gesture will mean Victory and not peace. Mm, I'm not so sure about that... A friend of mine came back from a SETI event once with a whole lot of pictures, in which people kept doing the little "V" thing with their fingers. Correlating that with the behaviour of tourists, we concluded that it was actually a secret finger-sign indicating "visitor," as in "I'm a visitor from outer space." -Bill
At 13:52 14/09/01 -0400, you wrote:
Do you guys really believe these people really know what they're celebrating?
"The suicide bombers of today are the noble successors of their noble predecessors... the Lebanese suicide bombers, who taught the US Marines a tough lesson in [Lebanon]...and then, with no preconditions, they threw the last of the remaining enemy [Israeli] soldiers out of the [security] zone. These suicide bombers are the salt of the earth, the engines of history...They are the most honorable [people] among us..." [Al Hayat Al Jadida - Official Palestinian Authority daily, Sept. 11, 2001] -Hank
Actually the two finger "peace" sign is not at all universal. I'm sure our British colleagues will note that a similar two finger gesture is equivalent to our American F.U. gesture. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Kuebler, Network Administrator | Plus ca change, mkuebler@diamonex.com | plus c'est la meme chose -------------------------------------------------------------------
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Mike Kuebler wrote:
Actually the two finger "peace" sign is not at all universal. I'm sure our British colleagues will note that a similar two finger gesture is equivalent to our American F.U. gesture.
Depends on which way the hand is turned. From gesturer's perspective, with palm outwards it means peace. With palm inwards it means F.U. So if one is going to use that gesture in UK best to get it right. :)
-- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Kuebler, Network Administrator | Plus ca change, mkuebler@diamonex.com | plus c'est la meme chose -------------------------------------------------------------------
-- Tom Glover
At 12:09 PM 9/14/2001, Tom Glover wrote:
Depends on which way the hand is turned. From gesturer's perspective, with palm outwards it means peace. With palm inwards it means F.U. So if one is going to use that gesture in UK best to get it right. :)
Sounds about right. One of us gets peace, the other gets F'ed. How apropos. ~Ben, speaking for himself alone --- Ben Browning <benb@theriver.com> The River Internet Access Co. Network Operations 1-877-88-RIVER http://www.theriver.com
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