--- wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote: From: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> We registered a few domains and get the same thing, I think it's something that people are going to have to live with. :/ ----------------------------------------------------------- No, we don't have to live with it. Name-n-shame and let us vote with our dollars. As I've said in the past, the ONLY thing they'll understand is negative impact to their bottom line... scott
I read your response and totally agree. I'm just saying that your dollars not being spent with someone will probably not result in the calls stopping. Advertising and marketing dominates this planet now, and people make big money by selling "lists" to organizations making a buck. Not saying these people didn't get it directly, but it should not be expected to stop unless there is a do not call registry (as I would think those guys would fall under a telemarketing agency). I could be wrong.. Sent from my Mobile Device. -------- Original message -------- From: Scott Weeks <surfer@mauigateway.com> Date: 07/25/2013 4:28 PM (GMT-08:00) To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: ARIN WHOIS for leads --- wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote: From: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> We registered a few domains and get the same thing, I think it's something that people are going to have to live with. :/ ----------------------------------------------------------- No, we don't have to live with it. Name-n-shame and let us vote with our dollars. As I've said in the past, the ONLY thing they'll understand is negative impact to their bottom line... scott
I'm pretty sure you have to sign a AUP or something to get access to the mass whois tool with ARIN, I'm just not sure of how they enforce what people are actually doing with the list. On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Warren Bailey < wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote:
I won't pretend to know how it's getting out there. Google your email address in about 10 minutes and see this conversation in 10 different lists. As Mark mentioned, this list has a lot of valuable eyes looking at it - so it's often a <insert snake oil o' the month> sales guy's wet dream. On the upside, solarwinds sent me a random 10 dollar amazon gift card a few weeks back so not all is lost.. ;) Sent from my Mobile Device. -------- Original message -------- From: Justin Vocke <justin.vocke@gmail.com> Date: 07/25/2013 4:37 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> Cc: surfer@mauigateway.com,nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads I'm pretty sure you have to sign a AUP or something to get access to the mass whois tool with ARIN, I'm just not sure of how they enforce what people are actually doing with the list. On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com<mailto:wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>> wrote: I read your response and totally agree. I'm just saying that your dollars not being spent with someone will probably not result in the calls stopping. Advertising and marketing dominates this planet now, and people make big money by selling "lists" to organizations making a buck. Not saying these people didn't get it directly, but it should not be expected to stop unless there is a do not call registry (as I would think those guys would fall under a telemarketing agency). I could be wrong.. Sent from my Mobile Device. -------- Original message -------- From: Scott Weeks <surfer@mauigateway.com<mailto:surfer@mauigateway.com>> Date: 07/25/2013 4:28 PM (GMT-08:00) To: nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org> Subject: RE: ARIN WHOIS for leads --- wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com<mailto:wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote: From: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com<mailto:wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>> We registered a few domains and get the same thing, I think it's something that people are going to have to live with. :/ ----------------------------------------------------------- No, we don't have to live with it. Name-n-shame and let us vote with our dollars. As I've said in the past, the ONLY thing they'll understand is negative impact to their bottom line... scott
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