Shipping bulk hardware via freight
I'm interested in talking with someone who has experience shipping hardware that has been pulled from a working environment. The assumption is that it would not use a normal carriers such as UPS of Fedex, but via private freight. Assuming that 20 x 1U switches and a handful of 10U chassis's were to be shipped, has anyone found a productive way to package them in something other than the boxes they come in? Has anyone tried to crate / pallet pack them or something more efficient? If so, please contact me offline if you are willing to share your experience. Jason
My suggestion would be to leave the packing & shipping to professionals.... Take it to you local UPS store or similar, they can pack it and ship it ( 1u switches, no big deal, but the 10u chassis, most likely best if they are palatalized) Doing it any other way would be greatly dependent on what facilities are available to you.. i.e. can you palatalize it ? Shrink wrap it and have a freight carrier pick it up.. (the are picky about doing that from a location that does not have dock height warehouse / ramp. You might be able to find a "consolidator" freight forwarder who may have the facilities to palatalize and shrink wrap.. You can also take the do it your-self approach, get / find some pallets, buy some strapping, and shrink wrap rolls, while not hard to do..... but make sure you have the resources to do so (pallet jack, space, tools etc). Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: Support@Snappytelecom.net ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason" <86@tacorp.us> To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 1:02:08 PM Subject: Shipping bulk hardware via freight
I'm interested in talking with someone who has experience shipping hardware that has been pulled from a working environment. The assumption is that it would not use a normal carriers such as UPS of Fedex, but via private freight.
Assuming that 20 x 1U switches and a handful of 10U chassis's were to be shipped, has anyone found a productive way to package them in something other than the boxes they come in? Has anyone tried to crate / pallet pack them or something more efficient?
If so, please contact me offline if you are willing to share your experience.
Jason
If you are planning to scrap it after retiring it from production, talk to nsrc @ uoregon, they'll pick it up and ship it to developing countries that could use it. On Nov 6, 2014 4:45 AM, "Jason" <86@tacorp.us> wrote:
I'm interested in talking with someone who has experience shipping hardware that has been pulled from a working environment. The assumption is that it would not use a normal carriers such as UPS of Fedex, but via private freight.
Assuming that 20 x 1U switches and a handful of 10U chassis's were to be shipped, has anyone found a productive way to package them in something other than the boxes they come in? Has anyone tried to crate / pallet pack them or something more efficient?
If so, please contact me offline if you are willing to share your experience.
Jason
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Jason <86@tacorp.us> wrote: .....
If so, please contact me offline if you are willing to share your experience.
If you no longer have the original packing boxes (most manufactures have a part number for their boxes, you can order and ship them to the DC, but they are not cheap), and you are relocating for future use, call professional movers that specialize in data centers. They know how to do it. Not cheap, but the equipment makes it to the other end in operational condition (rather than the router that had a fork lift hole in the side of the box (only bent the sheet metal, fortunately), or the entire rack that now had a 15 degree tilt, and for which the inserted disk drives no longer really fit into the metal shell, both "issues" showing up at the other end, and no one knowing how it happened, or the time our "in house" shipping expert(???) packed a large router power supply using packing peanuts, and it arrived with the corners bent (although after a bit of pliers and hammer work, it could be forced into the router, and it worked). And, if a professional data center mover screws up (and, occasionally, everyone does), their insurance covers the repair/replacement (and if you write the contract right, the cost of loss of service, if that is important to you). For our most recent smaller move, we ordered the boxes from the manufacturer (note that the lead times can sometimes be surprisingly long for just the box), and for the last bigger move we got the professional movers. Good luck.
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Gary Buhrmaster <gary.buhrmaster@gmail.com> wrote:
(rather than the router that had a fork lift hole in the side of the box (only bent the sheet metal, fortunately), or the entire rack that now had a 15 degree tilt, and for which the inserted disk drives no longer really fit into the metal shell, both "issues" showing up at the other end
Ah yes, I recall watching them decommission the old Control Data Cyber 990 back at Georgia Tech. The mover slipped trying to get it on the liftgate and the whole cabinet dropped about a foot to the ground with a nice solid thud. -Bill -- William Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com bill@herrin.us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> May I solve your unusual networking challenges?
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 23:11:23 -0500, William Herrin said:
Ah yes, I recall watching them decommission the old Control Data Cyber 990 back at Georgia Tech. The mover slipped trying to get it on the liftgate and the whole cabinet dropped about a foot to the ground with a nice solid thud.
I know of a case where somebody managed to drop an IBM Shark storage array off a forklift. Amazingly enough, it still kinda sorta worked after that....
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 6:07 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 23:11:23 -0500, William Herrin said:
Ah yes, I recall watching them decommission the old Control Data Cyber 990 back at Georgia Tech. The mover slipped trying to get it on the liftgate and the whole cabinet dropped about a foot to the ground with a nice solid thud.
I know of a case where somebody managed to drop an IBM Shark storage array off a forklift.
Amazingly enough, it still kinda sorta worked after that....
And in the "good ol' days" (before the shark, actually) the IBM CE assigned to your site would have worked day and night getting it to work (and had fun doing it), replacing every part one by one if needed while still wearing the white shirts. But I date myself.
On 11/05/14 13:02, Jason wrote:
I'm interested in talking with someone who has experience shipping hardware that has been pulled from a working environment. The assumption is that it would not use a normal carriers such as UPS of Fedex, but via private freight.
Assuming that 20 x 1U switches and a handful of 10U chassis's were to be shipped, has anyone found a productive way to package them in something other than the boxes they come in? Has anyone tried to crate / pallet pack them or something more efficient?
If so, please contact me offline if you are willing to share your experience.
Jason
Had a bunch (9) Dell C1100 shipped from Cali to Mtl on a 1/4 pallet thru UPS LTE. Cost barely $900 and 4h of import/export paperwork. To my surprise it arrived on a wooden pallet, which is fine... but each servers was just stacked on it, wrap with packing film, and 1 plastic strap and a bit of cardboard on the corners. I can only praise the driver and the handlers... none where beat up. TLDR: Shipping on pallet is fine, most carrier (at least the guys i dealt with) are professional, just do your own packing =D
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