At 5:44 PM 10/22/95, Brett D. Watson wrote:

Has anyone come up with *any* way to measure network performance (packet loss, throughput, delay) other than ping and traceroute?

From the draft charter: The IPPM WG will develop a set of standard metrics that can be applied to the

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