Re: On the control of the Internet.
On 6/13/2010 14:59, Joe Greco wrote:
Yes, but unreachability is basically only a problem for those who have failed to design and plan for it. You can engineer for unreachability. You're a lot more screwed if we start talking about government mandates and the contents of your zone.
I meant to ask in my original posting: http://volokh.com/2010/06/13/32843/ What happens when the US shuts down part of its part? Depends on what part it shut down, of course. But what are the available boundaries for the parts in question? If we don't know what will be ordered shutdown and what the boundaries of the shutdown area will be are there engineering concerns that can not be foreseen and economically provided-for? -- Somebody should have said: A democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Freedom under a constitutional republic is a well armed lamb contesting the vote. Requiescas in pace o email Ex turpi causa non oritur actio Eppure si rinfresca ICBM Targeting Information: http://tinyurl.com/4sqczs http://tinyurl.com/7tp8ml
On 6/13/2010 14:59, Joe Greco wrote:
Yes, but unreachability is basically only a problem for those who have failed to design and plan for it. You can engineer for unreachability. You're a lot more screwed if we start talking about government mandates and the contents of your zone.
I meant to ask in my original posting:
http://volokh.com/2010/06/13/32843/ What happens when the US shuts down part of its part? Depends on what part it shut down, of course. But what are the available boundaries for the parts in question?
If we don't know what will be ordered shutdown and what the boundaries of the shutdown area will be are there engineering concerns that can not be foreseen and economically provided-for?
I think it's a great question, and of course there are all sorts of concerns. For many operators here, though, this may be a political question more than an engineering question: if the government has the power, and comes and tells your management to do X, are they going to comply, or not? It is probably more operationally relevant to be concerned with how to cope with the more general problem of partitioning, because it's also possible that one day Elbonia will decide to filter out the US, and we may actually be able to engineer solutions that cope with that. A network that has planned ahead and is able to respond to such issues has more of a chance to be able to successfully cope with other partitioning issues, regardless of whether they're government-imposed or just a peering spat.
From that point of view, I believe my initial answers to you make a great deal of sense.
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