RE: Frame Relay encap vis-a-vis point-to-point at UUNET
Well, UUnet does terminate T3s into the Cascades. One of our T3s happens to go to UUnet and it is into one of their Cascades at PAIX. It is currently only a fraction circuit. From talking with their installer, they only plug you directly into one of their routers if the circuit is 15mb or higher. We have had this circuit for 9 months now and everything seems to be working great with it. Later, Chris -----Original Message----- From: Deepak Jain [mailto:deepak@ai.net] Sent: Monday, September 21, 1998 3:01 PM To: Jerry Scharf Cc: bjames@mis.net; nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Frame Relay encap vis-a-vis point-to-point at UUNET I have never heard complaints about the Cascades for T-1 termination except where they are terminating too many sessions in the Cascades and the router couldn't handle that many sessions. This was a bigger problem before the 7500 series routers came out and more importantly the RSP4s. Fortunately UUNet doesn't terminate T3s into Cascades or ATM switches (yet...) -Deepak.
Thus spake Chris Fairbanks
Well, UUnet does terminate T3s into the Cascades. One of our T3s happens to go to UUnet and it is into one of their Cascades at PAIX. It is currently only a fraction circuit. From talking with their installer, they only plug you directly into one of their routers if the circuit is 15mb or higher.
Well, that's a general guideline that they use...just turned up a 12mb circuit and its straight into a router...however, we've been customers of UU.Net for quite some time and they looked at our usage on our T1 circuits with them and realized that when we get a circuit, we *use* it, so they made the decision to put us directly on a router port in anticipation of us actually using the bandwidth. Incidentally, we're straight into the router port and still using f/r encap. I'm not really sure of the reasoning behind this, but apparently, the edict came down from on high that all new turn-ups would use frame-relay encap...even if straight into a router port. *shrug* -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456
On Tue, 22 Sep 1998, Jeff Mcadams wrote:
Incidentally, we're straight into the router port and still using f/r encap. I'm not really sure of the reasoning behind this, but apparently, the edict came down from on high that all new turn-ups would use frame-relay encap...even if straight into a router port. *shrug*
Jeff, We just turned up a UUNet multimeg connection and we got a direct router connection with hdlc encapsulation. Sounds like they're doing a great job of having a consistant policy :) Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chris Wilson (CW40), Network Engineer (352) 375-2912 x4383 Internet Connect Company, Inc. / Atlantic.Net fax (352) 375-2702
Thus spake Chris Wilson
On Tue, 22 Sep 1998, Jeff Mcadams wrote:
Incidentally, we're straight into the router port and still using f/r encap. I'm not really sure of the reasoning behind this, but apparently, the edict came down from on high that all new turn-ups would use frame-relay encap...even if straight into a router port. *shrug*
We just turned up a UUNet multimeg connection and we got a direct router connection with hdlc encapsulation. Sounds like they're doing a great job of having a consistant policy :)
Yeah...well its certainly a recent thing...our circuit was 4 months late getting turned up (6 telephone companies involved...ugh) but we originally configured it for PPP encap, and then when it finally did get turned up, we switched it to frame-relay...so its been within the past 4 months that this edict was delivered. :) -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456
On Wed, 23 Sep 1998, Jeff Mcadams wrote:
Yeah...well its certainly a recent thing...our circuit was 4 months late getting turned up (6 telephone companies involved...ugh) but we originally configured it for PPP encap, and then when it finally did get turned up, we switched it to frame-relay...so its been within the past 4 months that this edict was delivered. :)
I guess I should feel lucky that ours was only like 2-3 months late then :) Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chris Wilson (CW40), Network Engineer (352) 375-2912 x4383 Internet Connect Company, Inc. / Atlantic.Net fax (352) 375-2702
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