Is that really an appropriate response for NANOG? On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 1:41 PM Geoffrey Jackson < geoffrey.jackson@protonmail.com> wrote:

Pussy.

-----Original Message----- From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> Sent: 2 December 2023 7:11 AM To: Shane Ronan <shane@ronan-online.com> Cc: Tom Mitchell <tmitchell@netelastic.com>; NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>; NZNOG <NZNOG@list.waikato.ac.nz>; ausnog@lists.ausnog.net Subject: [nznog] Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds

On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 12:46 PM Shane Ronan <shane@ronan-online.com> wrote:

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If you want money from the government to subsidize your network, you'll

follow their rules...

It is the misguided focus on too many too simple things from the regulator and Congress, without even understanding what a packet is, and enormous subsidies for things that don't matter, and great mis-understanding of the things that do, that bothers me the most.

Anyway, for 14 years, I have been trying to get bufferbloat fixed, universally, and great progress is being made. I felt that with one political push like this, it might begin to turn the tide. We are accepting signatures on the FCC filing until 2PM EST today.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-QmhlYRLMBY4...

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On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 12:39 PM Tom Mitchell <tmitchell@netelastic.com> wrote:

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Not sure we need the FCC telling us how to build products or run

networks. Seat belts are life-or-death, but bufferbloat is rarely fatal ;-) Let it be a point of differentiation.

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-- Tom

On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 4:56 PM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

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Over here:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-Qmh lYRLMBY4vH4/edit

Us bufferbloat folk have been putting together a response to the FCC's NOI (notice of inquiry) asking for feedback as to increasing the broadband speeds beyond 100/20 Mbit.

"Calls for further bandwidth increases are analogous to calling for cars to have top speeds of 100, 200, or 500 miles per hour. Without calling also for better airbags, bumpers, brakes, or steering wheels, (or roads designed to minimize travel delay), these initiatives will fail (and are failing) to meet the needs of present and future users of the internet."

Comments (and cites) welcomed also! The text is still somewhat in

flux...

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