With enough badgering most providers will accept a /24 announcement of PA space. Exodus is the an exception, using their IP space is nightmarish. -----Original Message----- From: Borchers, Mark [mailto:mborchers@splitrock.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 12:35 PM To: 'nanog@merit.edu' Subject: RE: [Q] BGP filtering policies If you'll look at this pointer to one of ARIN's pages, it lists the minimum allocation size for each CIDR block that IANA has given ARIN to manage. From what I've seen, most providers accept at least up to the prefix length that the RIR's are using, if not longer. http://www.arin.net/statistics/index.html#ipv4issued2002 Unfortunately, this doesn't help in your case. My company also has /14's from the traditional class A space. I know of only one case in two years where a customer reported a problem arising from holding a small assignment out of these blocks, which was ultimately corrected by renumbering the customer, a solution which does not scale well. Worst case, however, unless your UUNet connection goes down, you'll still be able to reach most places via your other transit and peering (since /24 is the closest thing to a "universal" allowed prefix length) and will have full reachability via UUNet. IMHO, accepting up to /24 in any of the space listed on the above URL is good service provider practice.

-----Original Message----- From: Henry Yen [mailto:henry@AegisInfoSys.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 2:11 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: [Q] BGP filtering policies

We were recently assigned a /22 from UUNet in conjunction with some transit we're buying from them. The space is inside their superblock, 65.242.0.0/14. We are concerned that our route announcement of this block would be filtered out by some other providers, as it's not class C/swamp space (or even class B space for that matter). Verio's current policy, for one, indicates that this would be so.

This is of particular concern to us as our little network encompasses several physical partially-meshed locations, with a mix of varying bandwidths both upstream as well as intra-location. Traffic Engineering is what we think is a reasonable (business) approach to address our flexibility needs, and so we're trying to move to address space(s) that would be least likely to be BGP filtered.

We've asked for a different block from UUNet but the request didn't meet with success; UUNet suggested that any problems encountered as a result of this allocation could probably solved by e-mailing any NSP whose traffic interchange with us might be negatively affected (unlikely, to be sure, but still...), and would then change their filter (I'm unconvinced of this scenario).

I briefly browsed the NANOG archives, and didn't see this issue discussed recently. Have the BGP filtering policies for "most" ISP/NSP's been relaxed to the level of "accept /24's from class A (ARIN-allocated) space"? Am I mis-reading Verio's posted policy? Is there anyone from UUNet who might choose to comment? Is there something else I'm misunderstanding?

-- Henry Yen Aegis Information Systems, Inc. Senior Systems Programmer Hicksville, New York