From: woods@weird.com [mailto:woods@weird.com] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 7:14 PM
[ On Thursday, March 15, 2001 at 17:09:14 (-0600), Stephen Sprunk wrote: ]
Subject: Re: Broken Internet?
Renumbering PCs is a trivial task. Reconfiguring hundreds (or thousands) of routers, firewalls, etc. to account for the moved PCs is not trivial. Renumbering servers is not trivial.
For _small_ networks (where this discussion started) even manual reconfiguration of all the hosts (including servers) in an office, on a floor, or even in a small building, would take less time than this discussion has gone on for!
Good, then you won't mind paying for my renumber then ... BTW, having gone through this excersize a number of times, you are wrong. I depends on what types of services you are ruinning on how many hosts and the complexity of your distributed clusters. The ones that gave me the greatest heartburn is my Oracle DB cluster. But, my root zone cluster was almost as bad, followed closely by my web cluster and my Win2K AD/DDNS domains. Of course, re-engineering a /24 onto a /27 ate a bunch of time. Oh yeah, since the revenues were flat-lined, I couldn't afford to pay the SA staff and I had to do it myself, whilst also fending off the legal notices of those excersizing their software escrow clauses and others whom were P-O'd about my TLS servers being suddenly off-line. 60% of that /24 are various forms of server cluster. You either have too much money or you haven't been there. That arm-chair is nice and cushy ... isn't it?
On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 10:25:08PM -0800, Roeland Meyer wrote:
Good, then you won't mind paying for my renumber then ... BTW, having gone through this excersize a number of times, you are wrong. I depends on what types of services you are ruinning on how many hosts and the complexity of your distributed clusters. The ones that gave me the greatest heartburn is my Oracle DB cluster.
Why, exactly, does your Oracle DB cluster need to be in routable address space? Are people connecting to it from outside of your company?
But, my root zone cluster was almost as bad, followed closely by my web cluster and my Win2K AD/DDNS domains. Of course, re-engineering a /24 onto a /27 ate a bunch of time. Oh yeah, since the revenues were flat-lined, I couldn't afford to pay the SA staff and I had to do it myself, whilst also fending off the legal notices of those excersizing their software escrow clauses and others whom were P-O'd about my TLS servers being suddenly off-line. 60% of that /24 are various forms of server cluster.
You decided to run a business on DSL, and now you're paying the price for that. You really have nothing to complain about except your own bad judgement. Why is this thread still going? --Adam -- Adam McKenna <adam-sig@flounder.net> | "No matter how much it changes, http://flounder.net/publickey.html | technology's just a bunch of wires GPG: 17A4 11F7 5E7E C2E7 08AA | connected to a bunch of other wires." 38B0 05D0 8BF7 2C6D 110A | Joe Rogan, _NewsRadio_ 12:16am up 25 days, 8:03, 8 users, load average: 0.49, 0.37, 0.14
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