Question on Route-Set for Arin DB
So the Routing Database is something that I am just learning about and trying to find out if I need to create a Route-set or not. I just created my MNTNER ID and I also created the Route Objects for my two /24s that were given to my by my carriers. Do I need a route-set or aut-num object created? Still trying to get my head wrapped around the need for this. I read through this tutorial: http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog51/presentations/Sunday/NANOG51.Talk34.NA... and didn't get a really clear idea as to if I needed these. TIA, Joe
I am a newbie at it as well, having said that.. the short answer to your question is YES to aut-num and NO to route-set .. but the longer answer will always be based on how you are using the IRR.... If you are doing this for the most common, basic reason, that one of your upstream is requiring it.. then you may have to ask them. (in most cases aut-num for your ASN and route object for your routes is needed at minimum) BTW, I am curious, if you did not create an aut-num object, what did you enter as origin: for your route objects ? Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: Support@Snappytelecom.net ----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Jenkins" <joe@breathe-underwater.com> To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 5:28:39 PM Subject: Question on Route-Set for Arin DB
So the Routing Database is something that I am just learning about and trying to find out if I need to create a Route-set or not. I just created my MNTNER ID and I also created the Route Objects for my two /24s that were given to my by my carriers. Do I need a route-set or aut-num object created?
Still trying to get my head wrapped around the need for this. I read through this tutorial:
http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog51/presentations/Sunday/NANOG51.Talk34.NA...
and didn't get a really clear idea as to if I needed these.
TIA,
Joe
The origin stands alone; no aut-num needed in many cases. The way many providers use the IRR info is to take the adjacent ASN and do a reverse index lookup on the origin field. That is, for AS1234, what are all the route and route6 objects with that as an origin. If you need something more complicated, you can use an aut-num object to say that an as-set, route-set or combinations of these ought to be folded in when creating the filters. Tony On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <faisal@snappytelecom.net>wrote:
I am a newbie at it as well, having said that.. the short answer to your question is YES to aut-num and NO to route-set .. but the longer answer will always be based on how you are using the IRR....
If you are doing this for the most common, basic reason, that one of your upstream is requiring it.. then you may have to ask them. (in most cases aut-num for your ASN and route object for your routes is needed at minimum)
BTW, I am curious, if you did not create an aut-num object, what did you enter as origin: for your route objects ?
Regards
Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: Support@Snappytelecom.net
From: "Joseph Jenkins" <joe@breathe-underwater.com> To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 5:28:39 PM Subject: Question on Route-Set for Arin DB
So the Routing Database is something that I am just learning about and
to find out if I need to create a Route-set or not. I just created my MNTNER ID and I also created the Route Objects for my two /24s that were given to my by my carriers. Do I need a route-set or aut-num object created?
Still trying to get my head wrapped around the need for this. I read
----- Original Message ----- trying through
this tutorial:
http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog51/presentations/Sunday/NANOG51.Talk34.NA...
and didn't get a really clear idea as to if I needed these.
TIA,
Joe
The way many providers use the IRR info is to take the adjacent ASN and do a reverse index lookup on the origin field. That is, for AS1234, what are all the route and route6 objects with that as an origin. If you need something more complicated, you can use an aut-num object to say that an as-set, route-set or combinations of these ought to be folded in when creating the filters.
fwiw, i build filters by running peval() over their as-set randy
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