Another question -- how many people would be totally screwed if their phone suddenly LOST all their pre-programmed speed dials and their connectivity problems didn't allow them on-line access to find out what the numbers were... D At 01:47 PM 6/29/99 -0500, Michael P. Lucking wrote:
How about direct dial numbers (not toll-free). What would happen if you could not dial a toll free number, but could call directly. How many people know the Cisco TAC direct number in the US?
On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Sean Donelan wrote:
I went through my old tickets, and besides telephone repair, its remarkable how infrequently most of the Internet stuff we depend on breaks. So I based my list not on how likely something would break, but on how bad it would be if it did break.
Nothing may happen, but assuming such a list affected the setting of priorities, any changes to my list and why? -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation
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This is why PalmPilots are selling so well.
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Derek J. Balling Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 11:55 AM To: Michael P. Lucking; Sean Donelan Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Who are you gonna call?
Another question -- how many people would be totally screwed if their phone suddenly LOST all their pre-programmed speed dials and their connectivity problems didn't allow them on-line access to find out what the numbers were...
D
At 01:47 PM 6/29/99 -0500, Michael P. Lucking wrote:
How about direct dial numbers (not toll-free). What would happen if you could not dial a toll free number, but could call directly. How many people know the Cisco TAC direct number in the US?
On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Sean Donelan wrote:
I went through my old tickets, and besides telephone
repair, its remarkable
how infrequently most of the Internet stuff we depend on breaks. So I based my list not on how likely something would break, but on how bad it would be if it did break.
Nothing may happen, but assuming such a list affected the setting of priorities, any changes to my list and why? -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation
============================================================= ========== Michael Lucking Michael@Lucking.COM
Are you sure your PalmPilot will work? How about a good old piece of paper? On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
This is why PalmPilots are selling so well.
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On Tue, Jun 29, 1999 at 02:54:55PM -0500, Michael P. Lucking wrote:
Are you sure your PalmPilot will work? How about a good old piece of paper?
On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
This is why PalmPilots are selling so well.
======================================================================= Michael Lucking Michael@Lucking.COM
Which can be lost/burned/etc. REAL admins have impotant numbers tatooed on their arm and backed up on their leg. Seriously, though, there comes a point when you have to just trust in something. The chances of one's phone and palm both going out at the same time are fairly remote, I would expect. Jamie -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d- s+:+ a--(?) C++++ UB++++ P+ L--(++) E-- W++(--) N++ O? K w(---) O?>+ M?>+ V PS+ PE+ Y+ PGP->++ t+(*) 5+++ X++ R++ tv+ b+ DI++++ D++ G e>+ h--- r+++ y+++** ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
I was pointing out that you should keep non-electric backups of important contacts. On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Jamie Norwood wrote:
Which can be lost/burned/etc.
REAL admins have impotant numbers tatooed on their arm and backed up on their leg.
Seriously, though, there comes a point when you have to just trust in something. The chances of one's phone and palm both going out at the same time are fairly remote, I would expect.
Jamie
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On 06/29/99, Jamie Norwood <mistwolf@ethereal.net> wrote:
Seriously, though, there comes a point when you have to just trust in something. The chances of one's phone and palm both going out at the same time are fairly remote, I would expect.
...unless your phone and your PDA are the same box. One of my favorite techniques is to make sure that the NOC has as much information as possible, and that there's more than one way to contact them. This also offers side perks like being able to call up and say "hi, Jamie, can you find me some directions on mapsonus?" *grin* ---------========== J.D. Falk <jdfalk@cybernothing.org> =========--------- | "The First Amendment was designed to protect offensive speech, | | because nobody ever tries to ban the other kind." | | -- Mike Godwin, staff counsel, EFF | ----========== http://www.cybernothing.org/jdfalk/home.html ==========----
I think what you guys are going to do is use this forum and discussion to improve upon or maybe make an additional list like the nice one on http://puck.nether.net/netops/nocs.cgi ... and everyone is going to print it out and keep it in a safe place, as well as storing it on their phones and on computer somewhere. Not only that but friendly noc's are going to call or email their peers/friends/... and ask them if they've got the list and printed it out, ... ... not only that, but we'll live in harmony, every network will peer nicely with each other without complaining and the Internet will work perfectly all of the time ... NOC's/backbones will be nice to people big and small, dial-up/Leased Line/Fibre/Cable or whatever and will fix their networks when they are broken or under-max-load-capacity-capable without making excuses that you are not their customer, or you are a weeny on a modem you don't have a VPN or a Leased Line. (Think again ... that little guy on the modem at home can very well have an OC3 somewhere, and other T-1/T-3's somewhere, and come morning you will be talking to them as a customer). (well I can dream can't I??? ;-) At 11:55 AM 6/29/99 -0700, Derek J. Balling wrote:
Another question -- how many people would be totally screwed if their phone suddenly LOST all their pre-programmed speed dials and their connectivity problems didn't allow them on-line access to find out what the numbers were...
D
At 01:47 PM 6/29/99 -0500, Michael P. Lucking wrote:
How about direct dial numbers (not toll-free). What would happen if you could not dial a toll free number, but could call directly. How many people know the Cisco TAC direct number in the US?
On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Sean Donelan wrote:
I went through my old tickets, and besides telephone repair, its remarkable how infrequently most of the Internet stuff we depend on breaks. So I based my list not on how likely something would break, but on how bad it would be if it did break.
Nothing may happen, but assuming such a list affected the setting of priorities, any changes to my list and why? -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation
======================================================================= Michael Lucking Michael@Lucking.COM
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