Rafi: I admire your no-nonsense, focused approach to the IPS classification game. But than, it is probably as accurate as all the other ratings. Peter Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Rafi Sadowsky <rafi-nanog@meron.openu.ac.il> To: RJ Atkinson <rja@inet.org> CC: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>, nanog@merit.edu Sender: owner-nanog@merit.edu Reply-to: nanog@merit.edu Delivered-to: nanog-outgoing@trapdoor.merit.edu Delivered-to: nanog@trapdoor.merit.edu Delivered-to: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: New list Top 10 ISPs On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, RJ Atkinson wrote:

At 09:47 12/06/01, Sean Donelan wrote:

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NetworkWorld published an article citing research from Probe Research ranking the top 10 ISPs and their marketshare based on Year-end (2000) revenue.

Essentially none of these sorts of analyses are meaningful or relevant because one can yield any result or ordering one wants by playing games with the definition of "ISP" and the basis for the ranking.

Well - I think Genuity is the #1 ISP - since they use AS 1 (They got AS1 when they bought(merged in ?) BBN ) and it's quite obvious that the ISP with the #1 Autonomous System is the best - right ? ( ;-) Rafi

Also very unclear to me how any of this helps folks operate their networks or is applicable to NANOG, unless we've become a marketing organisation recently...

Ran