Brocade XMR/MLX VLAN bit counters (Cacti graphs for brocade VLANS) (95% billing).
All, We are running into an issue with Brocade where we are finding it difficult to to graph VLAN interfaces for bits (in/out) across a tagged (trunk) interface. On Cisco this is not an issue. So what we end up with in Cacti is a blank (no data) graph. I have been all over these devices with snmpwalk etc (typical tool set). Has anyone found a "fix" or work around for this? Or perhaps I should be asking a different question….Is there a better tool/mindset for 95% billing since this is what we are doing with this info. -- Jim Wininger "Don't find fault, find a remedy." - Henry Ford
Hi James, We have been using Observium and never look back http://www.observium.org/wiki/Main_Page Cheers, Edy On 1/14/2013 10:00 PM, James Wininger wrote:
All,
We are running into an issue with Brocade where we are finding it difficult to to graph VLAN interfaces for bits (in/out) across a tagged (trunk) interface. On Cisco this is not an issue. So what we end up with in Cacti is a blank (no data) graph.
I have been all over these devices with snmpwalk etc (typical tool set). Has anyone found a "fix" or work around for this? Or perhaps I should be asking a different question….Is there a better tool/mindset for 95% billing since this is what we are doing with this info. --
Jim Wininger
"Don't find fault, find a remedy." - Henry Ford
On 14 Jan 2013, at 4:00 PM, James Wininger <jwininger@ifncom.net> wrote:
All,
We are running into an issue with Brocade where we are finding it difficult to to graph VLAN interfaces for bits (in/out) across a tagged (trunk) interface. On Cisco this is not an issue. So what we end up with in Cacti is a blank (no data) graph.
I have been all over these devices with snmpwalk etc (typical tool set). Has anyone found a "fix" or work around for this? Or perhaps I should be asking a different question….Is there a better tool/mindset for 95% billing since this is what we are doing with this info.
I second Pui's suggestion for taking a look at Observium, it's got a vastly more NOC-friendly build than what Cacti's reigning philosophy appears to be. Might not be perfect for everyone, but certainly worth a bit of time to check out. As for your Cacti problem, it's likely the 64-bit counters thing. Cacti's templates don't default to 64-bit counters. -J
On 1/14/13 9:00 , James Wininger wrote:
All,
We are running into an issue with Brocade where we are finding it difficult to to graph VLAN interfaces for bits (in/out) across a tagged (trunk) interface. On Cisco this is not an issue. So what we end up with in Cacti is a blank (no data) graph.
Depending on the specific hardware you're using, you may be out of luck - early generations of MLX/XMR line cards don't support per-vlan statistics; you need to have the new 8x10GE cards (or a few others of the current generation) to have those counters available. -e
Sneaky hack: Slap an in+out rate limit on the vlan with high settings (i.e. same as port/lag speed) and just graph the OID of the rate limit counter :-) Might need to take a multiplier calculation/CDEF into account based on the number of ports you have in the lag. The new 8x10 cards have built in ve counters indeed which makes it a lot easier On 1/14/13 5:37 PM, Erik Muller wrote:
On 1/14/13 9:00 , James Wininger wrote:
All,
We are running into an issue with Brocade where we are finding it difficult to to graph VLAN interfaces for bits (in/out) across a tagged (trunk) interface. On Cisco this is not an issue. So what we end up with in Cacti is a blank (no data) graph.
Depending on the specific hardware you're using, you may be out of luck - early generations of MLX/XMR line cards don't support per-vlan statistics; you need to have the new 8x10GE cards (or a few others of the current generation) to have those counters available.
-e
-- Jeroen Wunnink Network Engineer Atrato IP Networks jeroen.wunnink@atrato-ip.com Phone: +31 20 82 00 623
I saw the same issue for getting OpenFlow stats, you need the new 8x10 or 100GE cards afaict. On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:38 AM, Jeroen Wunnink | Atrato IP Networks <jeroen.wunnink@atrato-ip.com> wrote:
Sneaky hack: Slap an in+out rate limit on the vlan with high settings (i.e. same as port/lag speed) and just graph the OID of the rate limit counter :-) Might need to take a multiplier calculation/CDEF into account based on the number of ports you have in the lag.
The new 8x10 cards have built in ve counters indeed which makes it a lot easier
On 1/14/13 5:37 PM, Erik Muller wrote:
On 1/14/13 9:00 , James Wininger wrote:
All,
We are running into an issue with Brocade where we are finding it difficult to to graph VLAN interfaces for bits (in/out) across a tagged (trunk) interface. On Cisco this is not an issue. So what we end up with in Cacti is a blank (no data) graph.
Depending on the specific hardware you're using, you may be out of luck - early generations of MLX/XMR line cards don't support per-vlan statistics; you need to have the new 8x10GE cards (or a few others of the current generation) to have those counters available.
-e
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Jeroen Wunnink Network Engineer Atrato IP Networks jeroen.wunnink@atrato-ip.com Phone: +31 20 82 00 623
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Steven Noble