You guys are all missing the point. The only reason for Cisco's prices is because they built proprietary RAM modules. That is ... >non-standard<. Cisco didn't *have* to do that. RAM chips are cheap. RAM modules are only expensive because the mfg *makes* them expensive. Actual COGm is less than $15US. In fact, the PCB costs more than the RAMs do because they are made in smaller volume. By the same token, the sheet metal costs more than the electronics, on a Cat 6509, but they know that you are willing to pay $150K^H^H^H^H^H$200K so *that's* what they charge for it. It's pure marketing. They can use standard PC133 DIMMs, if they want to. 90% of the MSRP goes to the distro channel. |> -----Original Message----- |> From: Brian Whalen [mailto:bri@sonicboom.org] |> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 9:54 PM |> To: Joe Abley |> Cc: John Fraizer; Leo Bicknell; 'nanog@merit.edu' |> Subject: Re: multi-homing fixes |> |> |> |> Well I remember seeing a message on groupstudy where somone |> from the tac |> came on and made a statement along the lines that a |> substantial quantity |> of cases they get are a result of non Cisco memory. |> |> Brian "Sonic" Whalen |> Success = Preparation + Opportunity |> |> |> On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Joe Abley wrote: |> |> > |> > On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 09:31:29PM -0700, Brian Whalen wrote: |> > > Yes and this non cisco ram can make Cisco's tac have a |> cor or two.. |> > |> > Cisco have certified a number of RAM vendors; you can happily buy |> > RAM from them (at non-inflated prices) without voiding |> your warranty |> > or causing an abnormal palpitations in the TAC. |> > |> > For example: |> > |> > http://www.kingston.com/memory/routerzone/default.asp |> > |> > Last time I priced RAM upgrades for RSP4s (which was a few years |> > ago now) cisco list price was around five times greater than |> > Kingston's price for cisco-approved SIMMs. Hooray, etc. |> > |> > |> > Joe |> > |>