Netelligent's sessions are also down to allow for troubleshooting without disrupting customer traffic, and we'll turn back up once TORIX indicates everything is okay. For any members who might have a usage-based billing for carrier transport to TORIX, it is worth mentioning that if you see extra "junk" traffic coming to your port, it is likely your transport provider would bill you for this traffic even though it is not bound for your router. For example, I see about 350Mbps of "junk" right now with our BGP sessions down, so if we had to pay per-Megabit for backhaul it would push that figure up for the month. If a member in this situation wanted to avoid a larger bill they would need to turn down their port in order to avoid being charged for the traffic, as deactivating BGP obviously only affects your "good" ingress and not the "junk." -- Jeff S Wheeler <jsw@inconcepts.biz> Sr Network Operator  /  Innovative Network Concepts