Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez' Office is on NANOG?? Or, what is the policy about sharing email offlist?
you too, why are you emailing me? I didn't ask anyone to contact me off list. On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 8:53 PM Sam Silvester <sam.silvester@gmail.com> wrote:
Archives are browsable by anybody. How do you expect to keep political types out of the discussion?
On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 at 11:36 am, Javier J <javier@advancedmachines.us> wrote:
I couldn't agree more. If I want to talk politics, I will go to other places. I use this mailing list to talk about things relevant to technology and operation of networks in North American and other places.
- Javier
On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 4:19 PM Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org> wrote:
javier,
I concur. What we don’t need on Nanog is outside parties deciding to “reign in” our discussions on political grounds!
-mel beckman
On Jan 18, 2021, at 12:38 PM, Javier J <javier@advancedmachines.us> wrote:
I agree 100%.
I know the emails on this list are public and that is fine. What I don't appreciate is that now my email address is in some politico's address list because of someone's behavior.
- Javier
On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 3:20 PM Jon Lewis <jlewis@lewis.org> wrote:
There's a world of difference between "don't expect list posts to be private to list members" and "don't forward the list to autoresponders." The stupidity of the latter, if it can be tracked down to who did it, should result in their removal from the list, at least until they explain what caused them to do that and have undone it.
On Mon, 18 Jan 2021, Paul Timmins wrote:
The list has public archives. Draw your own conclusions on the policy.
https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/
On 1/18/21 2:40 PM, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. wrote:
Not under that impression at all. That's very different from "what is the policy" - at least in the groups I run, if the policy is "no sharing offlist" and then someone does, there are consequences for that someone. Anne
-- Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law Dean of Cyberlaw & Cybersecurity, Lincoln Law School Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal anti-spam law) Board of Directors, Denver Internet Exchange Chair Emeritus, Asilomar Microcomputer Workshop Former Counsel: Mail Abuse Prevention System (MAPS)
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Yeah he did the same dolt act to me to. Just a really bored dolt looking for nonsense with a crush on AOC. -- J. Hellenthal The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume.
On Jan 19, 2021, at 00:40, Javier J <javier@advancedmachines.us> wrote:
you too, why are you emailing me?
I didn't ask anyone to contact me off list.
On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 8:53 PM Sam Silvester <sam.silvester@gmail.com> wrote: Archives are browsable by anybody. How do you expect to keep political types out of the discussion?
On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 at 11:36 am, Javier J <javier@advancedmachines.us> wrote: I couldn't agree more. If I want to talk politics, I will go to other places. I use this mailing list to talk about things relevant to technology and operation of networks in North American and other places.
- Javier
On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 4:19 PM Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org> wrote: javier,
I concur. What we don’t need on Nanog is outside parties deciding to “reign in” our discussions on political grounds!
-mel beckman
On Jan 18, 2021, at 12:38 PM, Javier J <javier@advancedmachines.us> wrote:
I agree 100%.
I know the emails on this list are public and that is fine. What I don't appreciate is that now my email address is in some politico's address list because of someone's behavior.
- Javier
On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 3:20 PM Jon Lewis <jlewis@lewis.org> wrote: There's a world of difference between "don't expect list posts to be private to list members" and "don't forward the list to autoresponders." The stupidity of the latter, if it can be tracked down to who did it, should result in their removal from the list, at least until they explain what caused them to do that and have undone it.
On Mon, 18 Jan 2021, Paul Timmins wrote:
> The list has public archives. Draw your own conclusions on the policy. > > https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/ > > On 1/18/21 2:40 PM, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. wrote: >> Not under that impression at all. That's very different from "what is the >> policy" - at least in the groups I run, if the policy is "no sharing >> offlist" and then someone does, there are consequences for that someone. >> Anne >> >> -- >> Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law >> Dean of Cyberlaw & Cybersecurity, Lincoln Law School >> Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal anti-spam law) >> Board of Directors, Denver Internet Exchange >> Chair Emeritus, Asilomar Microcomputer Workshop >> Former Counsel: Mail Abuse Prevention System (MAPS) >> >
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Sounds like someone has more time to talk/type about political dogma with random strangers than the purpose of this mailing list. - J On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 6:58 AM J. Hellenthal <jhellenthal@dataix.net> wrote:
Yeah he did the same dolt act to me to. Just a really bored dolt looking for nonsense with a crush on AOC.
-- J. Hellenthal
The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume.
On Jan 19, 2021, at 00:40, Javier J <javier@advancedmachines.us> wrote:
you too, why are you emailing me?
I didn't ask anyone to contact me off list.
On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 8:53 PM Sam Silvester <sam.silvester@gmail.com> wrote:
Archives are browsable by anybody. How do you expect to keep political types out of the discussion?
On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 at 11:36 am, Javier J <javier@advancedmachines.us> wrote:
I couldn't agree more. If I want to talk politics, I will go to other places. I use this mailing list to talk about things relevant to technology and operation of networks in North American and other places.
- Javier
On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 4:19 PM Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org> wrote:
javier,
I concur. What we don’t need on Nanog is outside parties deciding to “reign in” our discussions on political grounds!
-mel beckman
On Jan 18, 2021, at 12:38 PM, Javier J <javier@advancedmachines.us> wrote:
I agree 100%.
I know the emails on this list are public and that is fine. What I don't appreciate is that now my email address is in some politico's address list because of someone's behavior.
- Javier
On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 3:20 PM Jon Lewis <jlewis@lewis.org> wrote:
There's a world of difference between "don't expect list posts to be private to list members" and "don't forward the list to autoresponders." The stupidity of the latter, if it can be tracked down to who did it, should result in their removal from the list, at least until they explain what caused them to do that and have undone it.
On Mon, 18 Jan 2021, Paul Timmins wrote:
The list has public archives. Draw your own conclusions on the policy.
https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/
On 1/18/21 2:40 PM, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. wrote: > Not under that impression at all. That's very different from "what is the > policy" - at least in the groups I run, if the policy is "no sharing > offlist" and then someone does, there are consequences for that someone. > Anne > > -- > Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law > Dean of Cyberlaw & Cybersecurity, Lincoln Law School > Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal anti-spam law) > Board of Directors, Denver Internet Exchange > Chair Emeritus, Asilomar Microcomputer Workshop > Former Counsel: Mail Abuse Prevention System (MAPS) >
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis, MCP :) | I route StackPath, Sr. Neteng | therefore you are _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________
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