Since I'm unable to get messages to nanog@merit.edu posted in a timely fashion, I'm using Steve's account with hopefully more success. Exodus has purchased transit services in the past, which included other networks advertising our routes to other providers. This is not the case today. Our newest 10Q that was just filed for last quarter reflects such changes, and also notes the current BBN situation. In any regards, the question isn't whether Exodus purchases transit. Let me explain: I could easily get another network, within 24hours, to give us transit services. I have plenty of capacity to do such things, and have good relationships with folks that provide such services, whom we currently privately peer with. BBN also has that ability. They currently have backup-capacity through UUNET (2 DS3s as of 6 months ago) in Cambridge. Although these UUNET non-traditional DS3s don't advertise BBN routes, they were/are being used to get output from their Cambridge facility. I'm sure it would only be a matter of BBN calling UUNET to turn on such services. The fact is, I doubt BBN would do that. I also know that Exodus wouldn't do the same on our side. Don't ask me to prove the BBN UUNET situation, as I have no concrete proof. This was discovered via one source (a BBN engineer having a conversation with an Exodus engineer about why www.bbnplanet.com was not having packetloss, while a lot of other BBN sites were--it was noted verbally by them that the return path was going through a UUNET transit DS3). The fact is, BBN is disconnecting the Exodus private interconnects. Exodus, under normal properly operating circumstances, does not advertise it's networks to BBN through other providers. We would have to pay for that service, and will NOT do so. The same is vice versa for BBN. Given this, upon disconnecting, there will be no communication between the networks. I don't see any point on continuing this thread on NANOG. Anyone interested in continuing the transit discussion can certainly mail me directly at rob@exodus.net. If something interesting comes out of it, certainly it can be mailed to NANOG. Once again--** The position stated is that of Exodus Communications Inc. and not that of BBNPlanet/GTE or that of it's CTO John Curran. The statement of BBN purchasing services from UUNET is not a proven fact and should be considered an opinion of Exodus ** Rob Director Engineering Exodus