apologies for operational content. pfs and i are debugging access to/from the afnog class network in rabat. the net is 196.200.216.0/21. for example route-views.oregon-ix.net>traceroute 196.200.216.102 Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to 196.200.216.102 1 vl-51.uonet1-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.51.2) [AS 3582] 0 msec 0 msec 4 msec 2 0.ge-0-1-0.uonet8-gw.uoregon.edu (128.223.3.8) [AS 3582] 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec 3 eugn-car1-gw.nero.net (207.98.64.65) [AS 3701] 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec 4 eugn-core1-gw.nero.net (207.98.64.168) [AS 3701] 0 msec 0 msec 4 msec 5 eugn-core1-gw.nero.net (207.98.64.168) [AS 3701] !H * * route-views.oregon-ix.net>sh ip bg 196.200.216.102 | i 3701 i.e. nero net does not have our prefix. but others do, for example, from the net here i can ping home no prob. rmac.psg.com:/Users/randy> ping psg.com PING psg.com (147.28.0.62): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 147.28.0.62: icmp_seq=0 ttl=46 time=257.398 ms 64 bytes from 147.28.0.62: icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=285.779 ms --- psg.com ping statistics --- 2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 257.398/271.589/285.779/14.191 ms rmac.psg.com:/Users/randy> traceroute psg.com traceroute to psg.com (147.28.0.62), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 196.200.217.254 (196.200.217.254) 3.040 ms 1.686 ms 1.720 ms 2 ll81-2-205-33-192-81.ll81-2.iam.net.ma (81.192.33.205) 2.875 ms 3.049 ms 4.112 ms 3 172.20.2.31 (172.20.2.31) 4.497 ms 4.195 ms 2.973 ms 4 ppp-17-3-217-212.dialup.iam.net.ma (212.217.3.17) 5.700 ms 3.043 ms 3.012 ms 5 pal9-maroc-telecom-15.pal.seabone.net (195.22.197.161) 83.778 ms 82.221 ms 86.066 ms 6 ash2-new11-racc3.new.seabone.net (195.22.216.205) 145.379 ms 281.139 ms 146.080 ms 7 nttverio-1-us-ash2.ash.seabone.net (195.22.206.30) 162.111 ms * * 8 ae-2.r20.asbnva01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.56) 152.031 ms 148.205 ms * 9 as-0.r20.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.21) 224.672 ms 224.431 ms 229.258 ms 10 p64-0-0-0.r20.sttlwa01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.22) 245.879 ms 247.197 ms 242.687 ms 11 p16-0-0-0.r05.sttlwa01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.11) 241.235 ms 242.230 ms 241.175 ms 12 p1-0.psg.sttlwa01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.11.42) 246.562 ms 241.192 ms 246.050 ms 13 psg.com (147.28.0.62) 232.241 ms * * we suspect multiple bugs, bad filters within maroc telcom and poor propagation of announcements of our prefix. a pingable target here is 196.200.216.102 until i leave in three hours or so. randy