RE: ISPs as content-police or method-police
You missed the point. The filters were removed the moment we were able to get a suitably authorized NOC tech (next morning). That didn't change the fact that I incurred losses from paying three expensive contractors, for a full night of over-time, as a direct result of the unannounced filter. The contractors got paid, how do I recover the losses caused by the contract breach? The upstream refuses, therefore we must go to court.
-----Original Message----- From: Shawn McMahon [mailto:smcmahon@eiv.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 7:20 AM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: ISPs as content-police or method-police
On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 02:12:38PM -0800, Roeland Meyer wrote:
engineers doing this when it could have been prevented? I
have. Three
contractors, doing this, in over-time, at Silicon-Valley rates is well over $20K. More than enough to make it worth my while to sue my upstream.
And did you sue, or did you request the filter be removed?
You stated earlier in this thread that what you would do, and what anyone reasonable would do, is immediately call their lawyer.
Did you call him first, or did you contact the upstream first?
On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 10:56:18AM -0800, Roeland Meyer wrote:
You missed the point. The filters were removed the moment we were able to get a suitably authorized NOC tech (next morning). That didn't change the fact that I incurred losses from paying three expensive contractors, for a full night of over-time, as a direct result of the unannounced filter. The contractors got paid, how do I recover the losses caused by the contract breach? The upstream refuses, therefore we must go to court.
Are you going to court? Have you gone to court, or are you just blowing smoke here? I keep asking this question, and you keep skirting the answer. Gimme a yes or no, Roeland, please. BTW, you miss something; even if you go to court and they settle with you, it's cheaper for them than leaving the stinking ports open by default. That'll cost them a lot more hours for a lot more techs. Oh; and it shouldn't have taken that long to figure out what was up. Your contractors suck; get new ones.
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