| Private Exchange. It is a private exchange between SPRINT and Exodus. I see. And is it your assertion that Exodus does not pay for this peering, and that, moreover, the payment does not include transit services? One of the reasons I wonder, of course, is that it is pretty apparent from traceroutes that Sprint is not routing towards Exodus uniformly (see below, note different exits). Now why would Sprint do that on a settlement-free basis? I'm also curious about the assertion that you have no transit at all. Not even from Worldcom, maybe? I'm sure a public reassertion that there Exodus has NO paid-for transit from ANYONE would be interesting to everyone. Sean. ... 8 mlm1-core.hssi0-0.swip.net (130.244.194.145) 72.640 ms 79.000 ms 6.226 ms 9 198.67.142.137 (198.67.142.137) 7.338 ms 8.505 ms 7.945 ms 10 198.67.142.77 (198.67.142.77) 97.600 ms 96.253 ms 95.975 ms 11 144.232.5.157 (144.232.5.157) 96.336 ms 95.309 ms 95.644 ms 12 sl-bb22-stk-6-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.8.178) 148.940 ms 149.329 ms 149.583 ms 13 sl-bb23-stk-8-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.4.110) 149.705 ms 149.598 ms 150.050 ms 14 sl-bb10-sj-6-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.8.193) 150.645 ms 150.973 ms 151.126 ms 15 144.232.3.26 (144.232.3.26) 151.027 ms 154.151 ms 152.050 ms 16 sl-gw3-sj-4-0-0-155M.sprintlink.net (144.232.3.50) 151.511 ms 151.648 ms 151.472 ms 17 sl-exodus-5-0-T3.sprintlink.net (144.228.44.6) 156.324 ms 175.375 ms 158.908 ms 18 scca-01-f8-0-0.core.exodus.net (209.1.169.21) 163.182 ms 164.906 ms 168.566 ms 19 sc3-f0-1-0.exodus.net (209.1.169.14) 153.999 ms 155.180 ms 159.556 ms 20 santaclara-cisco75.exodus.net (207.82.200.75) 156.249 ms 231.899 ms 167.273 ms 21 209.1.231.2 (209.1.231.2) 170.068 ms 167.423 ms 169.606 ms 22 dixon.delong.sj.ca.us (192.159.10.1) 166.376 ms 173.019 ms 159.060 ms versus (towards what used to be cam.vio.com) 8 mlm1-core.hssi0-0.swip.net (130.244.194.145) 7.232 ms 6.630 ms 6.842 ms 9 198.67.142.137 (198.67.142.137) 7.145 ms 6.821 ms 6.979 ms 10 198.67.142.77 (198.67.142.77) 95.533 ms 96.899 ms 95.645 ms 11 144.232.5.157 (144.232.5.157) 96.509 ms 97.051 ms 95.386 ms 12 144.232.5.2 (144.232.5.2) 96.226 ms 95.588 ms 96.827 ms 13 sl-bb10-pen-3-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.8.217) 151.164 ms 151.616 ms 152.558 ms 14 sl-gw6-sea-0-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.6.66) 154.156 ms 153.385 ms 151.895 ms 15 sl-exodus-4-0-T3.sprintlink.net (144.224.113.26) 155.599 ms 151.810 ms 154.255 ms 16 scca-21-pos-0-0-0.core.exodus.net (209.185.9.185) 229.000 ms 178.663 ms 187.497 ms 17 scca-12-p1-0-0.core.exodus.net (209.185.9.29) 188.063 ms 183.958 ms 231.547 ms 18 sc1-f6-0-0.exodus.net (209.1.169.2) 527.453 ms 561.012 ms 503.870 ms 19 sc1-f6-0-0.exodus.net (209.1.169.2) 572.187 ms 633.966 ms 547.594 ms 20 * * * note Seattle versus San Jose. Interestingly: vio.com SOA NS.CARAVAN.com hostmaster.NS.CARAVAN.com NS.CARAVAN.COM seems to live behind bayarea.net, a BBN Planet customer. Sean. (again)
On Fri, Aug 14, 1998 at 09:38:56AM -0700, Sean M. Doran wrote:
I'm also curious about the assertion that you have no transit at all. Not even from Worldcom, maybe?
Worldcom proper sells transit? Or are you refering to ANS, UU.Net or one of the many other subsidiaries? The answer is no anyways.
I'm sure a public reassertion that there Exodus has NO paid-for transit from ANYONE would be interesting to everyone.
Exodus has no paid-for transit from ANYONE. -Steve -- Steven O. Noble -- Sr. Backbone Engineer, Exodus Communications (EXDS) -- Land:408.346.2333 Beep:408.925.8141 Wire:408.221.6417 -- All my love to the Canadian Mooing Frog.
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