I remember going through hell writing the justification for this network. I didn't know the NIC would allow sale of address space. Len At 01:47 PM 3/8/97 -0800, Michael Dillon wrote:
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As I see it, I don't think the Nic really has a choice in the matter. On Sat, 8 Mar 1997, Len Rose wrote:
I remember going through hell writing the justification for this network. I didn't know the NIC would allow sale of address space.
Len
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Hi,
I remember going through hell writing the justification for this network. I didn't know the NIC would allow sale of address space.
The Internet regsistries cannot disallow someone from selling IP address space any more than we can disallow someone selling the Brooklyn Bridge, gold painted bricks, or land with a lovely ocean view a few miles south of the Everglades. However, what we can disallow is the update of the registration database when a full registry allocated block is transfered from one organization to another. Of course, although I work for a registry, I (personally) am under no illusion that this will discourage the insistent as it has little impact on the operational viability of the network, it just makes finding out appropriate contacts when bad things happen a bit more difficult. Regards, -drc
You could, of course, SWIP (or otherwise delegate) both halves of the block to the same maintainer. Same effect. DS -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeane L. Dixon, world renowned psychic, died Saturday (1/25/97) at age 79. There was almost universal sadness and lament throughout the world of celebrity psychics. Contacted at her home, Dionne Warwick's spokeswoman said that "[Miss] Warwick is beside herself -- none of us expected this to happen". -------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sun, 9 Mar 1997, David R. Conrad wrote:
Hi,
I remember going through hell writing the justification for this network. I didn't know the NIC would allow sale of address space.
The Internet regsistries cannot disallow someone from selling IP address space any more than we can disallow someone selling the Brooklyn Bridge, gold painted bricks, or land with a lovely ocean view a few miles south of the Everglades.
However, what we can disallow is the update of the registration database when a full registry allocated block is transfered from one organization to another.
Of course, although I work for a registry, I (personally) am under no illusion that this will discourage the insistent as it has little impact on the operational viability of the network, it just makes finding out appropriate contacts when bad things happen a bit more difficult.
Regards, -drc
Hi. It's not good idea to discusse _can we /NIC/ allow or can we disallow_. More interesting is _how to prevent address space wasting_ and _how to prevent extra payements..._. If you'll disallow class B selling, Internet would lost 256*256 addresses, because this class B network would be unused (and somebody would use class C networks instead_. It's bad thing, isn't it? On the other hand, if you'll allow free saling of the address space, internet would be the homeplace of the big nabobs who can bye total address space and break down small competitors (and even small countries); it'll mean the deaths of the Internet, isn't it? I do not know how would NOC go between this _scilla_ and _charibda_, but it's one of this important questions the internet's future depends of. On Sun, 9 Mar 1997, David R. Conrad wrote:
Hi,
I remember going through hell writing the justification for this network. I didn't know the NIC would allow sale of address space.
The Internet regsistries cannot disallow someone from selling IP address space any more than we can disallow someone selling the Brooklyn Bridge, gold painted bricks, or land with a lovely ocean view a few miles south of the Everglades.
However, what we can disallow is the update of the registration database when a full registry allocated block is transfered from one organization to another.
Of course, although I work for a registry, I (personally) am under no illusion that this will discourage the insistent as it has little impact on the operational viability of the network, it just makes finding out appropriate contacts when bad things happen a bit more difficult.
Regards, -drc
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