Re: Microsoft XP SP2 (was Re: Lazy network operators - NOT)
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 17:07:45 -1000 (HST), Scott Weeks wrote:
Think globally. Even though this forum has NA as its heading, we need to think globally when suggesting solutions. You'll never get any sort of licensing globally nor will you EVER get end users (globally) educated enough to stop doing the things that they do which allow these events to continually occur.
We are in violent agreement about this. Since many gateway service providers will not prevent insufficiently skilled users from connecting to the internet and injuring others, the only remaining solution, as far as I can see, is cutting connectivity with those enablers. That is the proposal I advanced in <http://www.camblab.com/misc/univ_std.txt>. The logic seems quite simple: either fix all the users (impossible as you state) or keep them off the net (which you say many SPs won't do; I believe some will but many won't) so the only solution is to cut the latter off. If you are not willing to do that, then you will just have to accept the spam and we might as well stop whining about it. It is your choice. Jeffrey Race
: >Think globally. Even though this forum has NA as its heading, we need to : >think globally when suggesting solutions. You'll never get any sort of : >licensing globally nor will you EVER get end users (globally) educated : >enough to stop doing the things that they do which allow these events to : >continually occur. : : Since many gateway service providers will not prevent insufficiently : skilled users from connecting to the internet and injuring others, the : only remaining solution, as far as I can see, is cutting connectivity : with those enablers. That is the proposal I advanced in : <http://www.camblab.com/misc/univ_std.txt>. : : The logic seems quite simple: either fix all the users (impossible : as you state) or keep them off the net (which you say many SPs won't : do; I believe some will but many won't) so the only solution is to : cut the latter off. Neither can happen. That's just another way of saying make all your users skilled or go out of business. For example, cutting granny out of the $9.95 dialup service is comitting hari-kari for those that do that type of business. You'll never get her to complete training so she can send baby pictures to all her friends. Especially all the grannies in all the countries globally. : If you are not willing to do that, then you will just have to accept : the spam and we might as well stop whining about it. It is your : choice. While I'm listening to all the smart (and many not so) folks figure it out, I can press "d" quickly. I'm not whining, I'm listening intently... :-) scott
Think globally. Even though this forum has NA as its heading, we need to think globally when suggesting solutions. You'll never get any sort of licensing globally nor will you EVER get end users (globally) educated enough to stop doing the things that they do which allow these events to continually occur.
Since many gateway service providers will not prevent insufficiently skilled users from connecting to the internet and injuring others, the only remaining solution, as far as I can see, is cutting connectivity with those enablers. That is the proposal I advanced in <http://www.camblab.com/misc/univ_std.txt>.
And once again the you're punishing the victim. Let's not forget that the uneducated end user is tricked into doing things that are not good for them or the rest of the internet connected world. Unfortunately the only feasible and readily available computer solution for the uneducated end user is a single available operating system. Everyone is at the mercy of this product with all its flaws and downfalls. Instead of continually blaming the uneducated end user how about providing tools to the uneducated end user that can be used to connect to the internet without becoming a liability. A toaster with keyboard an monitor... Adi
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Scott Weeks