Re: Spring 1999 NOC contact drill
What, if any, representation does the TCP/IP-using community have in the underground utilities community? I submitted the URL of an underground utility locating magazine and know that there is a quasi-consortium -- the "Before you dig" center, the locators that respond (often contract) and the owners of the glass/copper/steel/concrete in the ground. Perhaps someone should work on getting us on their radar...? -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
At 04:24 PM 4/15/99 -0400, David Lesher wrote:
What, if any, representation does the TCP/IP-using community have in the underground utilities community?
I submitted the URL of an underground utility locating magazine and know that there is a quasi-consortium -- the "Before you dig" center, the locators that respond (often contract) and the owners of the glass/copper/steel/concrete in the ground. Perhaps someone should work on getting us on their radar...?
How does one become a member of the Call Before You Dig consortium? A quick web search found http://www.uncc.org/, but I'm not sure that's the right thing, plus it doesn't tell me how to become a member. (Okay, I only looked at it a few minutes, so maybe it's in there, but it is not obvious.) Anyway, maybe something like the ISP/C should join the Utility Notification Center of Colorado (the URL I found)? Does the UNCC have an e-mail notification of big digs or something that could be posted to NANOG, or prolly better have individual members subscribe to the list so we're forewarned of potential outages? Something like that. I dunno if these are all good ideas, but I do think we can be a bit more proactive than we are today. TTFN, patrick I Am Not An Isp - www.ianai.net ISPF, The Forum for ISPs by ISPs, <http://www.ispf.com> "Think of it as evolution in action." - Niven & Pournelle (No, I still don't have enable.)
On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, I Am Not An Isp wrote: > How does one become a member of the Call Before You Dig consortium? A > quick web search found http://www.uncc.org/, but I'm not sure that's the > right thing, plus it doesn't tell me how to become a member. (Okay, I only > looked at it a few minutes, so maybe it's in there, but it is not obvious.) > > Anyway, maybe something like the ISP/C should join the Utility Notification > Center of Colorado (the URL I found)? Does the UNCC have an e-mail > notification of big digs or something that could be posted to NANOG, or > prolly better have individual members subscribe to the list so we're > forewarned of potential outages? Something like that. Okay, so basically the deal was that there were a zillion (like 200) different "call before you dig" hotlines for different areas, and you had to track down the correct one, and there weren't a lot of penalties for not having one for an area, et cetera. Then in 1997, there was a federal house bill to unify it all, it carried over to 1998, and then actually passed around May or June sometime, as part of the Omnibus Federal Transportation act. The upshot of that is that there's one 888 number for the whole country now, and states lose a portion of their federal highway funds if they don't get the utilities which their PUCs regulate to participate in the program. There isn't anything to "join" though, and it's a pull system rather than a push system... They don't come and proactively tell you about all the cables everywhere, you ask them about a specfic area. This is all documented on the T-shirts that we were all wearing at the NANOG right after it happened, last spring/summer. -Bill
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Bill Woodcock
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David Lesher
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I Am Not An Isp