Hello Andrew, Monday, August 19, 2002, 12:11:02 PM, you wrote: AD> Hey everyone, I know this is slightly off topic but I'm hoping that someone AD> from Verisign or the like will respond. I am looking for a VERY secure AD> computer cabinet to replace an open rack I have now. I'm looking for almost AD> vault like qualities. Is anyone willing to make recommendations on a vendor? You may want to take a look at the cabinets offered by Lampertz: http://www.lampertz.com/DuS.htm Some hosting companies are using them for secure hosting. allan -- Allan Liska allan@allan.org http://www.allan.org

Andrew Dorsett <zerocool@netpath.net> writes:

Hey everyone, I know this is slightly off topic but I'm hoping that someone from Verisign or the like will respond. I am looking for a VERY secure computer cabinet to replace an open rack I have now. I'm looking for almost vault like qualities. Is anyone willing to make recommendations on a vendor?

Mosler (now a division of Diebold) makes (or at least used to make) a Class 5 GSA security container that will likely fit your needs. It's a variant of the map-and-plan safe which you can see at http://www.mosler.com/govt.html with the addition of a baffled blower and vent, conduit passthrough, 19" rackmount rails, and (optionally) a back door. They're known in the vernacular as a "crypto safe", which should give you an idea as to their usual application. Call the government sales folks; don't expect the commercial sales folks to know what it is you're talking about. Now, a class 5 security container isn't a vault, but it's far and away better than just about anything you can get from MTP, Chatsworth, and friends. (Federal Specification AA-F-358 calls for entry protection of 10 man-minutes forced entry, 20 man-hours surreptitious entry, and 30 man-minutes covert entry, with specified man-portable tools) Last time I talked to Mosler about buying some (this was pre-buyout, hence the hedge in the first paragraph about whether they still make them), I got a quote in the $3300 - $3500 range IIRC. This would have been with a Mosler MR(K)302 mechanical combination lock. If I'm not mistaken, in the government arena mechanical combination locks are deprecated, and that the current lock of choice is the Mas-Hamilton X-08 (which is a pretty righteous device in its own right; see http://www.mas-hamilton.com/x08.html). Unfortunately, one of these may push the price up to the $3900-$4000 range -- still a fine price if you ask me... Hope this helps, ---Rob