<rant> At the risk of generating more useless traffic that noone cares about, could please try and show a little more maturity on NANOG? The occational diversion is nice, but noone wants to sort through spoof mails from "Vaul Pixie" or "Bandy Rush" every day to fill someone's #nanog or #cisco vanity fix. Noone wants to hear about the personal tales and tribulations of .god and the little roach that could. Noone wants to hear the latest rant about the moral righteousness of someone's spam or RFC1918 filters. NANOG is NOT the replacement for whois and a phone book, if you can't get ahold of someone from some of these company's you havn't tried hard enough (for example, if you're looking for an abovenet engineer, why don't you try mailing noc@above.net, I'm sure you'll find one), and if you want to post messages and then ignore your private responses you don't need to tell us about it. And for the love of god, if you can't read a book, try asking your Alcatel coworkers about your beginner questions before you make a useless post to NANOG. If we wanted to read these things we'd subscribe to inet-access. Please, no reply's to this (cc'd 4 times) with "I agree", no ensueing debate on making NANOG moderated, no spoofed CERT advisories about the insecurities of "Vaul Pixie", just realize that its time to knock it off, and maybe stop to think before you open your mail composer. </rant> -- Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/humble PGP Key ID: 0x138EA177 (67 29 D7 BC E8 18 3E DA B2 46 B3 D8 14 36 FE B6)