unsubscribe -- Colt Ramsden Programmer Analyst II Sam Houston State University 936.294.4488 - ramsden@shsu.edu -----Original Message----- From: nanog-request@nanog.org [mailto:nanog-request@nanog.org] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 8:46 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: NANOG Digest, Vol 26, Issue 61 Send NANOG mailing list submissions to nanog@nanog.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to nanog-request@nanog.org You can reach the person managing the list at nanog-owner@nanog.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NANOG digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: IP4 Space (Tim Chown) 2. Re: YouTube AS36561 began announcing 1.0.0.0/8 (Patrick W. Gilmore) 3. FCC releases Internet speed test tool (Marshall Eubanks) 4. Re: FCC releases Internet speed test tool (Jared Mauch) 5. Re: FCC releases Internet speed test tool (Randy Bush) 6. Re: FCC releases Internet speed test tool (Alan Clegg) 7. Re: FCC releases Internet speed test tool (Joe Greco) 8. Re: FCC releases Internet speed test tool (Joe Greco) 9. Re: 10GBase-t switch (Joe Provo) 10. Re: FCC releases Internet speed test tool (Sean Donelan) 11. Re: FCC releases Internet speed test tool (Joe Greco) 12. Re: FCC releases Internet speed test tool (Bret Clark) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:24:49 +0000 From: Tim Chown <tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk> Subject: Re: IP4 Space To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org> Message-ID: <EMEW3|8307ebe537c701ca160c7121d1426ccbm2BCOp03tjc|login.ecs.soton.ac.uk|20100312122449.GK21233@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:42:50AM +1100, Mark Andrews wrote:
Does it make sense/work to do this for internal operations even if our outside connections are IPv4 only (forget about tunneling). Even more mundane questions like how to deal with IPv4 only networked printers when everything else is IPv6?
As for IPv4 only printers you can continue to run dual stack internally forever if you want. Otherwise put them on their own vlan and connect to them over NAT64 or run a proxy service.
Our approach to v6 deployment has always been about enabling capability where it is available. The trick is then to have the right tools to manage and monitor it. The interesting thing about printers is that even quite low end network printers (like the HP Laserjet I have) have had IPv6 for quite a while. You can even configure DHCPv6 on the one I'm using. Just look for capabilities/features as you refresh equipment and it makes things that little easier. Tim ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:34:10 -0500 From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net> Subject: Re: YouTube AS36561 began announcing 1.0.0.0/8 To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org> Message-ID: <6221C75D-A46C-457C-AC28-95D32ABA28D1@ianai.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mar 12, 2010, at 1:52 AM, Nathan wrote:
I'm hoping to alleviate the "what's going on!?" type messages here this time. :)
Oh, I understand what's going on exactly. YouTube is trying to balance their ratios. :) -- TTFN, patrick
Here's an except from the APNIC provided LOA I provided to a couple networks, to carry a new announcement...
"To whom it may concern,
APNIC and YouTube are cooperating in a project to investigate the properties of unwanted traffic that is being sent to specific destinations in the address block of 1.0.0.0/8. This address block has been recently allocated to APNIC from the IANA, and APNIC and YouTube are wanting to undertake this investigation prior to the commencement of ordinary allocations. Accordingly, APNIC authorizes AS36351 to periodically advertise a route for 1.0.0.0/8 from now until 21 March 2010, and requests that AS36351's peers and upstreams accept this as a legitimate routing advertisement."
In a continuation of last weeks experiments... we are now announcing 1.0.0.0/8 instead of 1.1.1.0/24 and 1.2.3.0/24.
Cheers ,N (nathan@youtube.com - AS36561)
------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:43:22 -0500 From: Marshall Eubanks <tme@americafree.tv> Subject: FCC releases Internet speed test tool To: "nanog@nanog.org list" <nanog@nanog.org> Message-ID: <9085B96B-EF03-4BC9-86C7-BC096D5E3A63@americafree.tv> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed This might be useful to some. Article : http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62B08720100312 site : http://www.broadband.gov/ It requires giving your address. Regards Marshall ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:55:39 -0500 From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> Subject: Re: FCC releases Internet speed test tool To: Marshall Eubanks <tme@americafree.tv> Cc: "nanog@nanog.org list" <nanog@nanog.org> Message-ID: <B72B6C72-EDA0-4CB4-BC1A-E61220B69C49@puck.nether.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If you have fios please don't use this, if you have relatives with dial, make them use it :) - Jared On Mar 12, 2010, at 8:43 AM, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
This might be useful to some.
Article :
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62B08720100312
site :
It requires giving your address.
Regards Marshall
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i suspect the bandwidth tests are a bit latency sensitive
It requires giving your address.
did not really like a tokyo postal code randy ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:08:20 -0500 From: Alan Clegg <alan@clegg.com> Subject: Re: FCC releases Internet speed test tool Cc: "nanog@nanog.org list" <nanog@nanog.org> Message-ID: <4B9A4AD4.6000409@clegg.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Marshall Eubanks wrote:
;; ANSWER SECTION: www.broadband.gov. 86400 IN A 4.21.126.148 www.broadband.gov. 86400 IN RRSIG A 7 3 86400 20100309192609 ( 20091209192609 46640 broadband.gov. [...] ) Expired signatures... zone won't validate. AlanC
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: IP4 Space (Tim Chown) 2. Re: YouTube AS36561 began announcing 1.0.0.0/8 (Patrick W. Gilmore) 3. FCC releases Internet speed test tool (Marshall Eubanks) 4. Re: FCC releases Internet speed test tool (Jared Mauch) 5. Re: FCC releases Internet speed test tool (Randy Bush) 6. Re: FCC releases Internet speed test tool (Alan Clegg) 7. Re: FCC releases Internet speed test tool (Joe Greco) 8. Re: FCC releases Internet speed test tool (Joe Greco) 9. Re: 10GBase-t switch (Joe Provo) 10. Re: FCC releases Internet speed test tool (Sean Donelan) 11. Re: FCC releases Internet speed test tool (Joe Greco) 12. Re: FCC releases Internet speed test tool (Bret Clark)
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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:24:49 +0000 From: Tim Chown <tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk> Subject: Re: IP4 Space To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org> Message-ID: <EMEW3|8307ebe537c701ca160c7121d1426ccbm2BCOp03tjc| login.ecs.soton.ac.uk|20100312122449.GK21233@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
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On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:42:50AM +1100, Mark Andrews wrote:
Does it make sense/work to do this for internal operations even if our outside connections are IPv4 only (forget about tunneling). Even more mundane questions like how to deal with IPv4 only networked printers when everything else is IPv6?
As for IPv4 only printers you can continue to run dual stack internally forever if you want. Otherwise put them on their own vlan and connect to them over NAT64 or run a proxy service.
Our approach to v6 deployment has always been about enabling capability where it is available. The trick is then to have the right tools to manage and monitor it.
The interesting thing about printers is that even quite low end network printers (like the HP Laserjet I have) have had IPv6 for quite a while. You can even configure DHCPv6 on the one I'm using.
Just look for capabilities/features as you refresh equipment and it makes things that little easier.
Tim
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Message: 2 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:34:10 -0500 From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net> Subject: Re: YouTube AS36561 began announcing 1.0.0.0/8 To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org> Message-ID: <6221C75D-A46C-457C-AC28-95D32ABA28D1@ianai.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
On Mar 12, 2010, at 1:52 AM, Nathan wrote:
I'm hoping to alleviate the "what's going on!?" type messages here this time. :)
Oh, I understand what's going on exactly. YouTube is trying to balance their ratios. :)
-- TTFN, patrick
Here's an except from the APNIC provided LOA I provided to a couple networks, to carry a new announcement...
"To whom it may concern,
APNIC and YouTube are cooperating in a project to investigate the properties of unwanted traffic that is being sent to specific destinations in the address block of 1.0.0.0/8. This address block has been recently allocated to APNIC from the IANA, and APNIC and YouTube are wanting to undertake this investigation prior to the commencement of ordinary allocations. Accordingly, APNIC authorizes AS36351 to periodically advertise a route for 1.0.0.0/8 from now until 21 March 2010, and requests that AS36351's peers and upstreams accept this as a legitimate routing advertisement."
In a continuation of last weeks experiments... we are now announcing 1.0.0.0/8 instead of 1.1.1.0/24 and 1.2.3.0/24.
Cheers ,N (nathan@youtube.com - AS36561)
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Message: 3 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:43:22 -0500 From: Marshall Eubanks <tme@americafree.tv> Subject: FCC releases Internet speed test tool To: "nanog@nanog.org list" <nanog@nanog.org> Message-ID: <9085B96B-EF03-4BC9-86C7-BC096D5E3A63@americafree.tv> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
This might be useful to some.
Article :
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62B08720100312
site :
It requires giving your address.
Regards Marshall
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Message: 4 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:55:39 -0500 From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> Subject: Re: FCC releases Internet speed test tool To: Marshall Eubanks <tme@americafree.tv> Cc: "nanog@nanog.org list" <nanog@nanog.org> Message-ID: <B72B6C72-EDA0-4CB4-BC1A-E61220B69C49@puck.nether.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
If you have fios please don't use this, if you have relatives with dial, make them use it :)
- Jared
On Mar 12, 2010, at 8:43 AM, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
This might be useful to some.
Article :
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62B08720100312
site :
It requires giving your address.
Regards Marshall
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Message: 5 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:57:59 +0900 From: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Subject: Re: FCC releases Internet speed test tool To: Marshall Eubanks <tme@americafree.tv> Cc: "nanog@nanog.org list" <nanog@nanog.org> Message-ID: <m2hbolvdzs.wl%randy@psg.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
i suspect the bandwidth tests are a bit latency sensitive
It requires giving your address.
did not really like a tokyo postal code
randy
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Message: 6 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:08:20 -0500 From: Alan Clegg <alan@clegg.com> Subject: Re: FCC releases Internet speed test tool Cc: "nanog@nanog.org list" <nanog@nanog.org> Message-ID: <4B9A4AD4.6000409@clegg.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Marshall Eubanks wrote:
;; ANSWER SECTION: www.broadband.gov. 86400 IN A 4.21.126.148 www.broadband.gov. 86400 IN RRSIG A 7 3 86400 20100309192609 ( 20091209192609 46640 broadband.gov. [...] )
Expired signatures... zone won't validate.
AlanC
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