For everything that has been said about charging for bandwidth, I don't see why a simple, low priced per-gigabyte model doesn't work. If you want to go to the ironic side, try using free software to do it all... http://www2.empnet.com/ipacct/ --- "Microsoft is to quality software what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking"
At 08:44 PM 09/21/1998 -0700, Chris Cappuccio wrote:
For everything that has been said about charging for bandwidth, I don't see why a simple, low priced per-gigabyte model doesn't work. If you want to go to the ironic side, try using free software to do it all... http://www2.empnet.com/ipacct/
For sake of simplicity, let's consider the case of _one_ global network which wants to charge its customers based on the some semblance of actual cost (i.e. ignore peering for the moment). Step one: hunt down all the marketing folks chanting "value-based pricing" and lock them in a empty colo facility. Step two: determine what underlying resources are most expensive (hint: check out your international circuits). Step three: set the unit price for each underlying resource so that current total usage of that resource times unit price would cover the current bill for the resource. Add in a small uplift to the unit prices to handle misc resources and margin. All of the above is easy... The hard part is when you somehow have to measure each customers traffic and determine their unit resource usage. Given the relatively discrepancy in local, national, and international circuits per Mbs/mile, you may need to categorize all of the flows into appropriate usage buckets. This gets non-trivial fast and diminishing returns approaches very quickly. Currently, most US providers simply lump the international traffic in with everything else and effectively sell "blended bits". Total traffic is easy to measure via SNMP, but most folks are referring to something more when the use the phrase "ip accounting". /John
A publisher in Hawaii is preparing to release the 'whois' database on CDROM. These are apparently the folks who got cut off by InterNIC because of their massive download of whois records. Story at http://www.zdnet.com/intweek/daily/980921b.html --Lloyd Lloyd Taylor -- taylorl@digex.net Vice President, Technical Operations DIGEX Web Site Management Group An Intermedia Company
On Tue, Sep 22, 1998 at 09:36:29AM -0400, Lloyd Taylor wrote:
A publisher in Hawaii is preparing to release the 'whois' database on CDROM. These are apparently the folks who got cut off by InterNIC because of their massive download of whois records.
Perhaps this explains the sudden rush of p-mail I'm getting to the address in my whois record. I modified that address subtly so that, while it was still deliverable, I'd know if mail coming to me was addressed from the whois file or not, and this past month I've gotten more than in the 3 years before that. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff "The net is safer in bad weather: you The Suncoast Freenet can't run a backhoe Tampa Bay, Florida in a hurricane." (after Sean Donelan) +1 813 790 7592 Managing Editor, Top Of The Key sports e-zine ------------ http://www.totk.com
On Tue, 22 Sep 1998, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
Perhaps this explains the sudden rush of p-mail I'm getting to the address in my whois record. I modified that address subtly so that, while it was still deliverable, I'd know if mail coming to me was addressed from the whois file or not, and this past month I've gotten more than in the 3 years before that.
Yeah I've been getting postal galore to my admin adresses - makes you feel good - at least trees are dying. -- I am nothing if not net-Q! - ras@poppa.clubrich.tiac.net
On Thu, 24 Sep 1998, Rich Sena wrote:
Yeah I've been getting postal galore to my admin adresses - makes you feel good - at least trees are dying.
If you have a problem with it, you can 1. Put return to sender on the mail or 2. Open it, grab the postage paid letter and send it and than call the 800 number. Christian
On Tue, 22 Sep 1998, Lloyd Taylor wrote:
A publisher in Hawaii is preparing to release the 'whois' database on CDROM. These are apparently the folks who got cut off by InterNIC because of their massive download of whois records.
Correction. They *were* planning to release the whois database on CDROM. That is, until the story got posted on http://slashdot.org and they got hit by the "Slashdot Effect". They now have a message posted on their website: -------- Formal announcement from Domains on Disc. Tuesday, September 22nd, 1998 4:10PM PDT Due to the overwhelming amount of e-mail that we have received, Domains on Disc has decided to indefinitely suspend the sale of this product. It has never been our intention to have this product used as source for Unsolicited Commercial E-mail To this date, no CD's have been pressed or shipped. We regret any inconvenience that this may have caused you. Please feel free to contact us, should you have any questions. Sincerely, Domains on Disc -- Chris Carrie <cjcarr@inert.net> Inert Network
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