All, While it could be said that there are operational tidbits in some of the messages regarding InterCage and Atrivo, the discussion has veered off into various conversations including legalities and the Internet death penalty. While many of these topics are valid discussion points, they are not on-topic for NANOG. Accordingly, the MLC would like to ask that further replies to the InterCage/Atrivo discussion be taken to more appropriate venues. Thank you! - Tim, for the MLC