I've used BGPLG for a few years on OpenBSD. Pretty solid and reliable On 25 May 2010 08:28, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:

so i went to get a looking glass going, and went to install lg (http://freshmeat.net/projects/lg/) on freebsd 8.

it is perl insanity. among other cpan sikness, it wants to build an entire perl implementation of ssh, with 666 other library modules included when there is a perfectly fine ssh client on the machine.

is there a decent looking glass package that does not fill my machine with trash?

randy

On Tue, 25 May 2010 16:28:39 +0200 Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:

so i went to get a looking glass going, and went to install lg (http://freshmeat.net/projects/lg/) on freebsd 8.

it is perl insanity. among other cpan sikness, it wants to build an entire perl implementation of ssh, with 666 other library modules included when there is a perfectly fine ssh client on the machine.

is there a decent looking glass package that does not fill my machine with trash?

it is called OpenBSD. it will fill your machine with OpenBSD though, don't know if you can afford it. :-) -- With best regards, Gregory Edigarov

Once upon a time, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> said:

it is perl insanity. among other cpan sikness, it wants to build an entire perl implementation of ssh, with 666 other library modules included when there is a perfectly fine ssh client on the machine.

That would be because the perfectly fine ssh client on the machine does not have a programmatic interface (OpenSSH has no library version and no interest in making a library version), so using it has to fall back to a complicated mess that creates a TTY, creates an SSH process attached to the TTY, and then do Expect-style "send a string, wait for a string" (which is a real PITA for error handling). If you are writing a program to make SSH connections, you are much better off using a different SSH client that has a library, e.g. libssh2, perl's Net::SSH::Perl or Net::SSH2 (which is a perl interface to libssh2), etc. -- Chris Adams <cmadams@hiwaay.net> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.