On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 06:12:08PM -0400, Frank Kastenholz wrote:

On Oct 6, 2012, at 6:39 AM, bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:

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On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 10:14:41AM +0100, Nick Hilliard wrote:

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On 06/10/2012 03:20, Jay Ashworth wrote:

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Those who know Fred and knew Jon personally might want to throw an oar in the water on this blog posting from last month.. ...

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I -think- Jon and Fred were not contemporaries. Fred is closer to my age than Jon.

While I don't know how old either is/would be, Fred was active in the IETF before I joined the IESG, I appointed him chair of the pppwg in 95 or 96 or so (I think?) and he became IETF chair in 96 or so --- the last year I was on the IESG. And was at the nerds on the beach IETF in Hawaii in89 or 90 iirc --Jon. Passed away in 98.

They certainly overlapped in their i* lives

Frank Kastenholz

going back another decade, Fred and I both worked on/with bridging technologies, before routing was popular. Jon had us beat by at least a decade - early 1970s. We cme to the party in the late 70's early 80s. /bill