I guess at long last it is time for Larry to stop thinking there was a common interest here. NANOG has gone completely into the weeds (my email client treats it as political spam). Sad--once upon a time it was a home for science in an insane academic world. -- "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid." --Albert Einstein From Larry's Cox account.