RE: Stealth p2p network in Kazaa and Morpheus?....
<grouch> Maybe ISPs and carriers can file a class action suit against these guys for something. I wanted to run a network, not manage someone else's distributed server farm. </grouch>
-----Original Message----- From: Craig Holland [SMTP:cholland@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 6:35 PM To: Nanog@Merit. Edu Subject: Stealth p2p network in Kazaa and Morpheus?....
This was news to me, so I'm passing it along. Sorry if it's spam. Checked the archives, and didn't see anything to this affect.
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The utilization of your network is something that you should address in your AUP. If your clients accepting the license agreement on their network/peer-to-peer software interferes with the operation of your facility or bandwidth then perhaps it's time to sit down at the drawing board again. You aren't maintaining anybodies distributed server farm. You're maintaining the infrastructure that your clients pay you to use, and they're allowing this application to function in the manner described in plain english within the license agreement. CBoyd@apogeetelecom.com wrote:
<grouch> Maybe ISPs and carriers can file a class action suit against these guys for something. I wanted to run a network, not manage someone else's distributed server farm. </grouch>
-----Original Message----- From: Craig Holland [SMTP:cholland@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 6:35 PM To: Nanog@Merit. Edu Subject: Stealth p2p network in Kazaa and Morpheus?....
This was news to me, so I'm passing it along. Sorry if it's spam. Checked the archives, and didn't see anything to this affect.
<watch the wrap> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/cn/20020402/tc_cn/stealth_p 2p _network_hides_inside_kazaa
On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 10:55:05 EST, Anthony D Cennami said:
The utilization of your network is something that you should address in your AUP. If your clients accepting the license agreement on their network/peer-to-peer software interferes with the operation of your facility or bandwidth then perhaps it's time to sit down at the drawing board again.
Of course, there IS the fact that under UCITA, it appears to be legal to have an EULA that has unreasonable terms that you can't read until after you've agreed to the EULA - or that have implications that the end user doesn't fully understand. http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/02/11/020211opfoster.xml Did you know that you gave Microsoft the right to download stuff onto your computer that would (for instance) intentionally disable your Netscape browser, or other third-party software? (And yes, I *know* Microsoft says "you can turn off 'auto update'" and that they will warn you before installing anything - the point is that once you've accepted the terms, they're not *obligated* to let your turn auto-update off or tell you they're updating anything....) So - if you've agreed to this, Microsoft is *allowed* to download a distributed computing client to your system the next time you connect. All your users that installed the software *did* agree to this, right? I mean - if they didn't, they're using the Microsoft product illegally. ;) -- Valdis Kletnieks Computer Systems Senior Engineer Virginia Tech
And I wanted to download files, but certainly did not want to unwittingly support a CDN. Maybe everyone will simply cease using the software. It certainly would set a nice example for other corporations implementing spyware, and other unsavory "features". Regards, James On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Chris Boyd wrote:
<grouch> Maybe ISPs and carriers can file a class action suit against these guys for something. I wanted to run a network, not manage someone else's distributed server farm. </grouch>
-----Original Message----- From: Craig Holland [SMTP:cholland@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 6:35 PM To: Nanog@Merit. Edu Subject: Stealth p2p network in Kazaa and Morpheus?....
This was news to me, so I'm passing it along. Sorry if it's spam. Checked the archives, and didn't see anything to this affect.
<watch the wrap> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/cn/20020402/tc_cn/stealth_p 2p _network_hides_inside_kazaa
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