Do you suppose that if a Microsoft salesman had given me a free copy of Windows back in 1990, I would have a right to use any version of Windows for free forever?
I don't think this analogy exactly fits. I'm pretty sure that the legacy space holders think of this as: a Microsoft salesman had given them a free copy of Windows back in 1990, and had returned many years later to say that MS had established a registry for all new recipients of Windows that charged a registration fee, and MS wanted them to start paying the fee for the free copy as well.
Do you suppose that if a Microsoft salesman had given me a free copy of Windows back in 1990, I would have a right to use any version of Windows for free forever?
I don't think this analogy exactly fits. I'm pretty sure that the legacy space holders think of this as: a Microsoft salesman had given them a free copy of Windows back in 1990, and had returned many years later to say that MS had established a registry for all new recipients of Windows that charged a registration fee, and MS wanted them to start
paying
the fee for the free copy as well.
Regardless of what the legacy space users think, if the RIRs decided to sign certificates for use in BGP route for a small fee to recover costs, and if those legacy space holders wish to make use of this new service (like a new version of Windows) then they have to sign up and pay the fees. The fact that they once received a free service does not entitle them to receive *ALL* services for free *FOREVER*. Perhaps this discussion should move to http://www.groklaw.net where people who understand how law works could comment on it. In any case, the bottom line is that the existence of a few legacy space users should not prevent us from leveraging the RIRs to sign certificates, run route registries, run the in-addr.arpa domain etc. --Michael Dillon
Of course we could all quickly move to IPv6 and then IPv4 legacy allocations and related legal challenges wouldn't be an issue any more ... :) On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 Michael.Dillon@btradianz.com wrote:
Do you suppose that if a Microsoft salesman had given me a free copy of Windows back in 1990, I would have a right to use any version of Windows for free forever?
I don't think this analogy exactly fits. I'm pretty sure that the legacy space holders think of this as: a Microsoft salesman had given them a free copy of Windows back in 1990, and had returned many years later to say that MS had established a registry for all new recipients of Windows that charged a registration fee, and MS wanted them to start paying the fee for the free copy as well.
Regardless of what the legacy space users think, if the RIRs decided to sign certificates for use in BGP route for a small fee to recover costs, and if those legacy space holders wish to make use of this new service (like a new version of Windows) then they have to sign up and pay the fees. The fact that they once received a free service does not entitle them to receive *ALL* services for free *FOREVER*.
Perhaps this discussion should move to http://www.groklaw.net where people who understand how law works could comment on it.
In any case, the bottom line is that the existence of a few legacy space users should not prevent us from leveraging the RIRs to sign certificates, run route registries, run the in-addr.arpa domain etc.
--Michael Dillon
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