bdragon@gweep.net wrote:
Technology staff of Erie Forge and Steel is well aware, and approving,
of the current usage of their IP space. What you consider "hijacking", they consider innovation, and an opportunity to give back to the Internet community that's allowed them to prosper over the years.
If they are truly giving back to the community, they should refer to BCP4.
Who are you to tell them how to run their network, when you can't even keep your own network's SPAM problem under control? BCP4 documents a practice which is neither "Best" nor "Common". In fact, it's heavily flawed, and relies on the incorrect assumptions that there's somehow a shortage of IPv4 space, and ARIN is worthy of free hand-outs in the form of large blocks of IP space, with no monitary compensation offered to those who "surrender" them. Anyone who even considers following it needs to have their head examined. Erie Forge has done absolutely nothing wrong in this matter; their IP space is no more "jacked" than any other.
"7. Postings to the list must be made using real, identifiable names and addresses, rather than aliases."
This _is_ my real address.
Moot point. You're not posting with your actual first and last name in the From header. In other words, you are in violation of the NANOG AUP. I respectfully ask that you do the honrable thing and come into compliance, or unsubscribe yourself from nanog-post, lest MERIT will take the appropriate action on your behalf. This is no forum for anonymous cowards.
The rest of your message is merely reaching.
"Merely" reaching? Given the subscriber volume on here, I believe it was quite effective in its intended circulation goals.
If you can convince someone that GweepCo (or RCN, since you harped on about them for a while) has/is/will done/doing/do something wrong or unethical, be my guest. However, I think you'll probably have a tough time doing so, since many of the GweepCo folks are respected members of the networking/systems community
Obviously you're missing the gist of this and earlier threads on this topic. It's been proven that many network operators represented on NANOG, who on the surface appear perfectly legitimate, run spamming operations or harbor known spammers behind closed doors. For this reason, everyone, including this ficticious "Gweep corporation" of yours must be regarded as black hat, until Kai Schlicting or the SPEWS maintainers are able to demonstrate otherwise. Vigilance is key here. If you've got an armed threat, you need an armed presence.
AfterBurner and the rest of the RCN abuse team is widely respected as one of the best in the industry.
"AfterBurner", LOL! If they're so respected, why are they incapable of demonstrating a bit of common sense and netiquite as posting with their real names instead of pseudonyms? How am I to take anyone seriously when they go by "AfterBurner"? This is the operational community you're addressing here, not the audience at a 2600 meeting. And you've failed to even comment on the URL I produced earlier, showing evidence of SPAM on RCN's network, some originating from RCN sales and support people. Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get FREE encrypted email: https://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Free, ultra-private instant messaging with Hush Messenger https://www.hushmail.com/services.php?subloc=messenger&l=434 Big $$$ to be made with the HushMail Affiliate Program: https://www.hushmail.com/about.php?subloc=affiliate&l=427
IIRC, Afterburner stopped using his real name in any sort of official capacity as RCN's abuse manager after he received a death threat accompanied by a photo of his house. I can't say I blame him. :) -C
"AfterBurner", LOL! If they're so respected, why are they incapable of demonstrating a bit of common sense and netiquite as posting with their real names instead of pseudonyms? How am I to take anyone seriously when they go by "AfterBurner"? This is the operational community you're addressing here, not the audience at a 2600 meeting.
And you've failed to even comment on the URL I produced earlier, showing evidence of SPAM on RCN's network, some originating from RCN sales and support people.
Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get FREE encrypted email: https://www.hushmail.com/?l=2
Free, ultra-private instant messaging with Hush Messenger https://www.hushmail.com/services.php?subloc=messenger&l=434
Big $$$ to be made with the HushMail Affiliate Program: https://www.hushmail.com/about.php?subloc=affiliate&l=427
Chris Woodfield wrote:
IIRC, Afterburner stopped using his real name in any sort of official capacity as RCN's abuse manager after he received a death threat accompanied by a photo of his house. I can't say I blame him. :)
I can't believe he's still on the job -- abuse work burned me out. The last time I worked with him was 1998. Perhaps the "Afterburner" is like the "Phantom" -- the name and job are the same, but the individual behind the mask is not. Peter E. Fry
Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered:
Chris Woodfield wrote:
IIRC, Afterburner stopped using his real name in any sort of official capacity as RCN's abuse manager after he received a death threat accompanied by a photo of his house. I can't say I blame him. :)
I can't believe he's still on the job -- abuse work burned me out. The last time I worked with him was 1998. Perhaps the "Afterburner" is like the "Phantom" -- the name and job are the same, but the individual behind the mask is not.
I've met Afterburner, and you're no... ooops... AB is still around but has far fewer minions, as does every dept. at RCN. -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
participants (4)
-
Chris Woodfield -
David Lesher -
ddragon＠hushmail.com -
Peter E. Fry