AT&T Worldnet announces that starting Monday, March 31 1997, it will be taking action to stop email from non-AT&T Worldnet account holders being relayed through its servers. We have reserved the right to treat such mail any way we deem appropriate, which may include deleting it without notification to the originator. Please address any questions about this policy to abuse@worldnet.att.net.
At 06:08 PM 3/28/97 -0500, Jonathan Clark wrote:
AT&T Worldnet announces that starting Monday, March 31 1997, it will be taking action to stop email from non-AT&T Worldnet account holders being relayed through its servers.
Any email...even regular questions/replies....I think specific types of email would be more appropriate..."spam","obscene" etc. Kevin Smith Updated Service and Support Senior Technical Support Engineer Resources are now at: Customer Satisfaction Ascend Communications http://www.ascend.com/service
As enscripted by Kevin Smith:
Any email...even regular questions/replies....I think specific types of email would be more appropriate..."spam","obscene" etc.
Kevin, We meet again. The circles certainly seem small at times. I question your comments regarding AT&T Worldnet's announcement. I read it as clearly stating that _any_ mail (not limited to spam or obscene, etc.) being relayed (not to or from an AT&T Worldnet customer) will not be delivered by AT&T Worldnet's mail servers. I have three things to say, each from a different point of view. 1. As a frequent recipient of spam delivered by AT&T Worldnet: it's about time. See number 2. 2. As above and a proponent of the open Internet: Yay, another provider taking control and repsonsibility for their participation in the Internet. 3. As a system admin at an ISP: I don't blame 'em. I have investigated methods for doing this myself and will be proposing early next week that we take the same measures. Nobody has an obligation to relay any mail for any other body on the Internet. If more mail servers on the Internet took these measures, the level of spam would come down due to the easier job of finding the real point of origin of the spam. Take care Kevin, b. -- Brian J. Murrell Brian_Murrell@bctel.net BCTel Advanced Communications brian@ilinx.com Vancouver, B.C. brian@wimsey.com 604 454 5279
While we are discussing AT&T Worldnet, does anyone LOOK at mail to abuse? I personally emailed this address, along with root and postmaster over three months ago, and I know of at least 4 others who did the same, and got no response. In fact, I believe 2 of the addresses bounced...And when BBN (transit provider) was called, they refused to do anything about it... Reid Fishler Lightning Internet Services, LLC
AT&T Worldnet announces that starting Monday, March 31 1997, it will be taking action to stop email from non-AT&T Worldnet account holders being relayed through its servers.
We have reserved the right to treat such mail any way we deem appropriate, which may include deleting it without notification to the originator.
Please address any questions about this policy to abuse@worldnet.att.net.
Last I checked Reid, it was only the 28th of March, not the 31st. Give 'em a chance there buddy and then maybe flame them. -Paul. -- Paul R.D. Lantinga #planting@vfi.com# Systems Administrator, Verifone IC "...'proactive' and 'paradigm', aren't these just buzzwords that dumb people use to sound important?"-The Simpsons On Fri, 28 Mar 1997, Reid Fishler wrote:
While we are discussing AT&T Worldnet, does anyone LOOK at mail to abuse? I personally emailed this address, along with root and postmaster over three months ago, and I know of at least 4 others who did the same, and got no response. In fact, I believe 2 of the addresses bounced...And when BBN (transit provider) was called, they refused to do anything about it... Reid Fishler Lightning Internet Services, LLC
AT&T Worldnet announces that starting Monday, March 31 1997, it will be taking action to stop email from non-AT&T Worldnet account holders being relayed through its servers.
We have reserved the right to treat such mail any way we deem appropriate, which may include deleting it without notification to the originator.
Please address any questions about this policy to abuse@worldnet.att.net.
Reid: This from attworldnet: (i'm a little behind on nanog mail :P ) Received: from spam.set.worldnet.att.net ([135.173.8.83]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id ABK25101 for <jdp@cyberramp.net>; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:59:37 +0000 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970312160039.03444428@postoffice2.ops.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: postmaster@postoffice2.ops.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 11:00:39 -0500 From: AT&T WorldNet Postmaster <postmaster@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: SPAM FROM YOUR SITE AGAIN Thank you for alerting us to the unwanted e-mail you have received. We have received complaints from other internet users concerning the same offensive message; however, the offender is not a WorldNet member. WorldNet is aware that the origin of the spam you have received did not emanate from WorldNet; rather, the spammer has used WorldNet as a relay to inject the junk e-mail into the internet community. WorldNet's Terms and Conditions of Service prohibits WorldNet members from sending junk e-mail; therefore, WorldNet obviously finds it disdainful that spammers from other ISPs are bouncing their junk mail off WorldNet's mail servers. We won't stand for it. WorldNet is in the final stages of implementing a fix to the relay problem. Our WorldNet network operations team has spent much time and effort to eliminate internet spamming via WorldNet's mail system. The resolution to the problem is near. Please know that we are working to put an end to such unwanted, offensive junk mail. Regards, Postmaster Reid Fishler wrote:
While we are discussing AT&T Worldnet, does anyone LOOK at mail to abuse? I personally emailed this address, along with root and postmaster over three months ago, and I know of at least 4 others who did the same, and got no response. In fact, I believe 2 of the addresses bounced...And when BBN (transit provider) was called, they refused to do anything about it... Reid Fishler Lightning Internet Services, LLC
AT&T Worldnet announces that starting Monday, March 31 1997, it will be taking action to stop email from non-AT&T Worldnet account holders being relayed through its servers.
We have reserved the right to treat such mail any way we deem appropriate, which may include deleting it without notification to the originator.
Please address any questions about this policy to abuse@worldnet.att.net.
-- Janet Pippin * CyberRamp Internet Services Network Administrator *** 11350 Hillguard Road jdp@cyberramp.net * Dallas, Texas 75243-8311 http://www.cyberramp.net * (214) 340-2020 (817) 226-2020
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