If you're looking at the Packeteer to put some limits in place based on protocol, you can take a look at Cisco's NBAR, which is supported in IOS. What kind of metrics are you looking for? Netflow type info? How fat is the pipe you want to monitor/manipulate? -jay -----Original Message----- From: Drew Weaver [mailto:drew.weaver@thenap.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:47 AM To: 'nanog@merit.edu' Subject: Packeteer stuff? Specifically talking about the PacketSeeker 6500 Is it worth the money? Or are there better ways to get centralized views of network metrics? -Drew