New list: ddos-fighter
Hi all, We would like to announce a new mailing-list: ddos-fighter@securite.org This list has been created to enable owners and users of DDoS detection and mitigation devices (*) at ISPs/NSPs to discuss architecture and deployment, share tips, filtering templates, experience and operational models, etc. To subscribe send a mail specifying: who you are (ASN/company, position/job desc., Internet security references - if any) and which product(s) [detection and mitigation] you use AND are willing to discuss/share experience on (no lurkers, no marketing, no sales, etc) to: ddos-fighter-subscribe@securite.org We may ask you to "prove" that you actually own and operate such devices. If you have any question or feedback: nico@securite.org This list is not for real-time DDoS mitigation and inter-SP coordination, for this please see nsp-sec: http://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/nsp-security Most of the nsp-sec charter applies to this list too. Also, note that the list is currently not "public" (as opposed to cisco-nsp or juniper-nsp for example). (*) Arbor Peakflow, Cisco(/Riverhead) Guard, Mazu Profiler/ Enforcer, TopLayer IPS, Captus IPS, TippingPoint Unity, etc. Things like ACLs and blackholing don't count :) Nico. -- Nicolas FISCHBACH (nico@securite.org) <http://www.securite.org/nico/> Senior Manager - IP Engineering/Security - COLT Telecom Securite.Org Team - http://www.securite.org/
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 00:14:48 +0200, Nicolas FISCHBACH said:
and which product(s) [detection and mitigation] you use AND are willing to discuss/share experience on (no lurkers, no marketing, no sales, etc) to:
We may ask you to "prove" that you actually own and operate such devices.
Hmm... so it's impossible for a site looking at various vendors to lurk and get a feel for which one is a 'best fit' for their needs without first buying one. Also, it's not obvious whether things like "How to get that Packeteer you bought to control file sharers to do other useful stuff too..." are in-bounds. Similarly for any *other* traffic shaping technology that doesn't happen to be one of the named vendors. So given that people will *already* presumably have bought one of the "approved" devices, and said devices already probably have their own foobox-users group list someplace, what will said list really accomplish besides "My foobox is bigger than your foobox" discussions?
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Nicolas FISCHBACH
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Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu