We've had two seperate vendors report some type of general outage at this CO in Manhattan, meaning POTS, leased line, colo'd DSL. I can only imagine it's a power issue if such a variety of services are dead. One claims BA has had other outages in the city throughout the day... Charles | Charles Sprickman | Internet Channel | INCH System Administration Team | (212)243-5200 | spork@inch.com | access@inch.com