Anyone know the impact on the XO Routing/Peering that is happening right now? We have had spotty connectivity for the last hour. Stefan
The internet health report is showing high latency to most of their peers. Chuck. On Sep 16, 2010 11:57 AM, "Stefan Molnar" <stefan@csudsu.com> wrote:
Anyone know the impact on the XO Routing/Peering that is happening right now? We have had spotty connectivity for the last hour.
Stefan
This should probably be on outages@, but XO is definitely having problems to places like speedtest.com & RCN from Boston. -- TTFN, patrick On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
The internet health report is showing high latency to most of their peers.
Chuck.
On Sep 16, 2010 11:57 AM, "Stefan Molnar" <stefan@csudsu.com> wrote:
Anyone know the impact on the XO Routing/Peering that is happening right now? We have had spotty connectivity for the last hour.
Stefan
XO Engineers are telling us that they are aware of packet loss across their network and are looking into it. We're experiencing slow/degraded connectivity out of St. Louis and Nashville but Atlanta and Dallas are problem free. William Collier-Byrd will@collier-byrd.net On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net>wrote:
This should probably be on outages@, but XO is definitely having problems to places like speedtest.com & RCN from Boston.
-- TTFN, patrick
On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
The internet health report is showing high latency to most of their peers.
Chuck.
On Sep 16, 2010 11:57 AM, "Stefan Molnar" <stefan@csudsu.com> wrote:
Anyone know the impact on the XO Routing/Peering that is happening right now? We have had spotty connectivity for the last hour.
Stefan
XO began advertising way too many prefixes, a few hours ago. Most likely tripping most of their peers max-prefix limits. Filters are your friends. ~mark -----Original Message----- From: William Byrd [mailto:will@collier-byrd.net] Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:09 AM To: Patrick W. Gilmore Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: XO Routing XO Engineers are telling us that they are aware of packet loss across their network and are looking into it. We're experiencing slow/degraded connectivity out of St. Louis and Nashville but Atlanta and Dallas are problem free. William Collier-Byrd will@collier-byrd.net On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net>wrote:
This should probably be on outages@, but XO is definitely having problems to places like speedtest.com & RCN from Boston.
-- TTFN, patrick
On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
The internet health report is showing high latency to most of their peers.
Chuck.
On Sep 16, 2010 11:57 AM, "Stefan Molnar" <stefan@csudsu.com> wrote:
Anyone know the impact on the XO Routing/Peering that is happening right now? We have had spotty connectivity for the last hour.
Stefan
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Looks like XO has stopped advertising its peer's prefixes. Sessions coming back up and stable. -----Original Message----- From: Calkins, Mark [mailto:Mark.Calkins@twtelecom.com] Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:18 AM To: William Byrd Cc: NANOG list Subject: RE: XO Routing XO began advertising way too many prefixes, a few hours ago. Most likely tripping most of their peers max-prefix limits. Filters are your friends. ~mark -----Original Message----- From: William Byrd [mailto:will@collier-byrd.net] Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:09 AM To: Patrick W. Gilmore Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: XO Routing XO Engineers are telling us that they are aware of packet loss across their network and are looking into it. We're experiencing slow/degraded connectivity out of St. Louis and Nashville but Atlanta and Dallas are problem free. William Collier-Byrd will@collier-byrd.net On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net>wrote:
This should probably be on outages@, but XO is definitely having problems to places like speedtest.com & RCN from Boston.
-- TTFN, patrick
On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
The internet health report is showing high latency to most of their peers.
Chuck.
On Sep 16, 2010 11:57 AM, "Stefan Molnar" <stefan@csudsu.com> wrote:
Anyone know the impact on the XO Routing/Peering that is happening right now? We have had spotty connectivity for the last hour.
Stefan
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Hopefully they don't treat this the same way they treat their billing, otherwise you all will be degraded for months or even years. It is absolutely amazing that this company is still in business. Jeff On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Calkins, Mark <Mark.Calkins@twtelecom.com> wrote:
XO began advertising way too many prefixes, a few hours ago. Most likely tripping most of their peers max-prefix limits. Filters are your friends. ~mark
-----Original Message----- From: William Byrd [mailto:will@collier-byrd.net] Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:09 AM To: Patrick W. Gilmore Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: XO Routing
XO Engineers are telling us that they are aware of packet loss across their network and are looking into it. We're experiencing slow/degraded connectivity out of St. Louis and Nashville but Atlanta and Dallas are problem free.
William Collier-Byrd will@collier-byrd.net
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net>wrote:
This should probably be on outages@, but XO is definitely having problems to places like speedtest.com & RCN from Boston.
-- TTFN, patrick
On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
The internet health report is showing high latency to most of their peers.
Chuck.
On Sep 16, 2010 11:57 AM, "Stefan Molnar" <stefan@csudsu.com> wrote:
Anyone know the impact on the XO Routing/Peering that is happening right now? We have had spotty connectivity for the last hour.
Stefan
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On 9/16/10 9:35 AM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:
Hopefully they don't treat this the same way they treat their billing, otherwise you all will be degraded for months or even years. It is absolutely amazing that this company is still in business.
The "big guys" will always remain in business, or be absorbed into another equal or larger entity to form an even bigger one, regardless of their practices. (A fringe exception would be AT&T's court ordered breakup.) The larger they get the much more spectacular the faults tend to be. Whereas with smaller providers like myself, how I treat my customers factors in as a major aspect to whether or not they stick around. I can't compete strictly on price with the big guys, but I do absorb their BS and shield my customers from it as much as possible. If I treated my customers like the big guys do, I wouldn't have any. ~Seth
The unconfirmed chatter I'm hearing is that they were leaking peering routes to other peers. Can anyone check and confirm this? Renesys? -C On Sep 16, 2010, at 9:09 12AM, William Byrd wrote:
XO Engineers are telling us that they are aware of packet loss across their network and are looking into it. We're experiencing slow/degraded connectivity out of St. Louis and Nashville but Atlanta and Dallas are problem free.
William Collier-Byrd will@collier-byrd.net
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net>wrote:
This should probably be on outages@, but XO is definitely having problems to places like speedtest.com & RCN from Boston.
-- TTFN, patrick
On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
The internet health report is showing high latency to most of their peers.
Chuck.
On Sep 16, 2010 11:57 AM, "Stefan Molnar" <stefan@csudsu.com> wrote:
Anyone know the impact on the XO Routing/Peering that is happening right now? We have had spotty connectivity for the last hour.
Stefan
My sales director said it was their peering. On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, Chris Woodfield wrote:
The unconfirmed chatter I'm hearing is that they were leaking peering routes to other peers. Can anyone check and confirm this? Renesys?
-C
On Sep 16, 2010, at 9:09 12AM, William Byrd wrote:
XO Engineers are telling us that they are aware of packet loss across their network and are looking into it. We're experiencing slow/degraded connectivity out of St. Louis and Nashville but Atlanta and Dallas are problem free.
William Collier-Byrd will@collier-byrd.net
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net>wrote:
This should probably be on outages@, but XO is definitely having problems to places like speedtest.com & RCN from Boston.
-- TTFN, patrick
On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
The internet health report is showing high latency to most of their peers.
Chuck.
On Sep 16, 2010 11:57 AM, "Stefan Molnar" <stefan@csudsu.com> wrote:
Anyone know the impact on the XO Routing/Peering that is happening right now? We have had spotty connectivity for the last hour.
Stefan
On Sep 16, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Stefan Molnar wrote:
My sales director said it was their peering.
First problem with a statement talking about technical problems: "My sales director said...." Second problem: "Peering" does not cause internal routing loops. Er, should not. Third problem: "Was". -- TTFN, patrick
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, Chris Woodfield wrote:
The unconfirmed chatter I'm hearing is that they were leaking peering routes to other peers. Can anyone check and confirm this? Renesys?
-C
On Sep 16, 2010, at 9:09 12AM, William Byrd wrote:
XO Engineers are telling us that they are aware of packet loss across their network and are looking into it. We're experiencing slow/degraded connectivity out of St. Louis and Nashville but Atlanta and Dallas are problem free.
William Collier-Byrd will@collier-byrd.net
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net>wrote:
This should probably be on outages@, but XO is definitely having problems to places like speedtest.com & RCN from Boston.
-- TTFN, patrick
On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
The internet health report is showing high latency to most of their peers.
Chuck.
On Sep 16, 2010 11:57 AM, "Stefan Molnar" <stefan@csudsu.com> wrote:
Anyone know the impact on the XO Routing/Peering that is happening right now? We have had spotty connectivity for the last hour.
Stefan
Stefan Molnar wrote:
Anyone know the impact on the XO Routing/Peering that is happening right now? We have had spotty connectivity for the last hour.
Stefan
I don't know the exact impact but I've had my Covad and AT&T customers ready to hang me because of what's going on. As of right this moment, my Covad connections are slowly coming back but have been acting spotty, I haven't heard complaints about the AT&T side for about 30-40 minutes. My POV, Covad is shaky because of their peering to XO. AT&T might have corrected itself. David Hubbard wrote:
I know their own phone systems went down, or perhaps were overloaded; we lost our office connection to them but our phones remained online. I called their tech line by cell, was told thanks for calling XO, we are experiencing technical difficulties and then it hung up on me. :-) This seems to happen about once a month with them though so I'm used to it.
David
Their own phone systems... I have a lot of clients whose providers peer with XO whose phone systems went kaput (one way audio, resolved, nope, resolved, nope). This is one of the downsides of working an ITSP. Trying to explain to clients why another provider they've never heard of is impacting their business. Oy VoIP, how I loathe you. -- =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ J. Oquendo SGFA, SGFE, C|EH, CNDA, CHFI, OSCP, CPT "It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to ruin it. If you think about that, you'll do things differently." - Warren Buffett 227C 5D35 7DCB 0893 95AA 4771 1DCE 1FD1 5CCD 6B5E http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x5CCD6B5E -- =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ J. Oquendo SGFA, SGFE, C|EH, CNDA, CHFI, OSCP, CPT "It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to ruin it. If you think about that, you'll do things differently." - Warren Buffett 227C 5D35 7DCB 0893 95AA 4771 1DCE 1FD1 5CCD 6B5E http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x5CCD6B5E
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