Is MPLS based VPN really feasible in real world situation?
Hi Nanog, We've noticed that Global one has already begin to sell its MPLS based VPN, but we heard the Cisco people says that MPLS can't be widely deployed. Does anyone know any further detail of Global one's MPLS based VPN, is it real? Any additional operational cost than traditional VPN ? Here is the Glob alone news. Today's focus: Good times for Global One ----------------------------------------------- By Denise Pappalardo Global One last week was tooting its own horn. The company announced that it inked deals with more than 20 "major multinational companies in the U.S., Europe, South America and Asia.All of these new customers are using Global One's Global IP VPN service that's based on Multiprotocol Label Switching technology. Some of the 20 new customers include Renault Spain, Agrupacion Mutual Aseguradora and Sysigsa. Global IP VPN service is available in 35 countries: Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hong Kong, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Korea, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Peru, Portugal, Russia, Spain, Singapore, South Africa, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, U.S., United Kingdom and Venezuela. The service uses Cisco 7500 series routers that support MPLS for advanced traffic engineering, which allows users to set priority levels for various types of traffic. The service runs over France Telecom's global terabit fiber optic network that connects 250 cities in 16 European countries. France Telecom, which is now the sole owner of Global One, also recently announced that it is building a 15,000-mile fiber-optic network in North America that will span 28 cities. The service provider offers another version of its Global IP VPN service that runs over its frame relay network in 75 countries. -------------------------------------- (Mr.) Yu Ning, Chief Eng. Internet Network Product Dep. Data Com. Bureau, China Telecom Beijing, P.R.C. +86-10-62072357/54 -------------------------------------- -------------------------------------- (Mr.) Yu Ning, Chief Eng. Internet Network Product Dep. Data Com. Bureau, China Telecom Beijing, P.R.C. +86-10-62072357/54 --------------------------------------
On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Yu Ning wrote:
Hi Nanog,
We've noticed that Global one has already begin to sell its MPLS based VPN, but we heard the Cisco people says that MPLS can't be widely deployed. Does anyone know any further detail of Global one's MPLS based VPN, is it real? Any additional operational cost than traditional VPN ?
Well I can tell you at Exario we decided to go with ATM, we just were not ready to sell MPLS based VPNs. Voice is a vary strong part of our solution and that compounded the problems.
<> Nathan Stratton CTO, Exario Networks, Inc. nathan@robotics.net nathan@exario.net http://www.robotics.net http://www.exario.net
Hi Nanog,
We've noticed that Global one has already begin to sell its MPLS based VPN, but we heard the Cisco people says that MPLS can't be widely deployed. Does anyone know any further detail of Global one's MPLS based VPN, is it real? Any additional operational cost than traditional VPN ?
Err. who from Cisco said it can't be widely deployed? -- Christian Kuhtz <ck@arch.bellsouth.net> -wk, <ck@gnu.org> -hm Sr. Architect, Engineering & Architecture, BellSouth.net, Atlanta, GA, U.S. "I speak for myself only."
I don't mean to intrude, as I'm a journalist who lurks, not a carrier representative. But I thought I'd point out that at last week's "IP Over WDM" conference in Paris, Giles Heron, of Level 3 Communications, remarked that the company has MPLS running in its Juniper M160 routers and that the firm has been running MPLS VPNs in London for six months. Heron remarked the gating factor at this point is getting the firm to price such a service for commercial deployment, and, on the technical side, the service can not be run out to the edge of the network until there is compatibility between Juniper and Cisco's respective label distribution protocol (LDP) software. Once this happens, Giles expects the company will try to run MPLS across the entire network between the Juniper switches and Cisco 7500 routers. I'm not really qualified to assess any of this information, but thought I'd offer it to the group since I came across it at the conference. Tiernan Ray Journalist SmartMoney.com tiernan@tiernan.net Christian Kuhtz wrote:
Hi Nanog,
We've noticed that Global one has already begin to sell its MPLS based VPN, but we heard the Cisco people says that MPLS can't be widely deployed. Does anyone know any further detail of Global one's MPLS based VPN, is it real? Any additional operational cost than traditional VPN ?
Err. who from Cisco said it can't be widely deployed?
-- Christian Kuhtz <ck@arch.bellsouth.net> -wk, <ck@gnu.org> -hm Sr. Architect, Engineering & Architecture, BellSouth.net, Atlanta, GA, U.S. "I speak for myself only."
Can we please quit the bashing? It doesn't lead anywhere. Anyone reading the various archives will be able to easily track down your opinion. I was trying to track down the background represented by the poster. -- Christian Kuhtz <ck@arch.bellsouth.net> -wk, <ck@gnu.org> -hm Sr. Architect, Engineering & Architecture, BellSouth.net, Atlanta, GA, U.S. "I speak for myself only."
-----Original Message----- From: Randy Bush [mailto:randy@psg.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 10:50 AM To: Christian Kuhtz Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Is MPLS based VPN really feasible in real world situation?
Err. who from Cisco said it can't be widely deployed?
cisco is large. someone honest accidentally slipped in. it happens.
in the words of mo, i strongly encourage my competitors to deploy 2547[bis] mpls based vpns.
randy
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