From: Miles Fidelman [mailto:mfidelman@civicnet.org] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 3:14 PM

On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Shawn McMahon wrote:

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If you don't want to read, you don't have to. A lot of us do feel that this has operational impact, and will continue to discuss the topic long after its death.

I suppose Susan could kick half of the list's members out, if she think's that's productive.

Haven't we all repeated the various positions to death? I don't think any minds are going to change at this point. Susan has a point, let's drop it - or at least take it to a venue where some policy might really be made (like the various DNSO lists).

I sort of agree with Susan. DOMAIN-POLICY is the place to be, or the ICANN lists, for matters of policy and legitimacy. Contrary to some beliefs, those are not technical issues. The point that's made here is that most of these issues were covered years ago, on many of those other lists. I mentioned earlier that opinions expressed here were reminiscent of DOMAIN-POLICY, circa 3-years ago. The reason this is true is that many of you have NOT been keeping up with the changing issues and the moving consensus. The fact that many of NANOG felt sandbagged by the new.net play, may be explained by a sad case of denial and failing to follow the issues on those other lists. I've been expecting such a play since the November ICANN meet. Y'all may ridicule me all you want, but the sad fact remains that if y'all don't get involved you have not much room to complain, when the fecal material impacts the rotating blades. At that time, about all that you can do is duck and avoid the bigger pieces. IOW, it'll be too late. Poking your collective heads in the NANOG sands will not make these issues go away. BTW, the ORSC has been working the technical side for over three years. see www.icann.org www.dnso.org www.dnso.net www.open-rsc.org Let's take this over to the DOMAIN-POLICY lists, I'll see y'all there.