RE: OT: Interesting email I received
I just had to call that number on his web page and ask if it was some sort of joke, The guy there "Paul" didn't have any idea that his services were disrupted, and he even seemed excited at the prospect of doing some Bulk/Spam Email for me. When I mentioned I couldn't get to his webpage He seemed surprised. I ended the convo with "You should really read the TOS with your ISP" <click> hahaha. I would love to hear the conversation between him and Qwest Tech/Support. Cheers! -Joe
---------- From: Daniel Lark[SMTP:dlark@elmresources.com] Reply To: dlark@elmresources.com Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:04 PM To: 'Christopher A. Woodfield'; 'Dan Hollis' Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: OT: Interesting email I received
Guess Qwest already yanked 'em. Yay!!!
-dan
traceroute to 65.114.61.35 (65.114.61.35), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 host1.elmresources.com (208.253.213.1) 0.588 ms 0.558 ms 0.474 ms 2 958.Serial1-1.GW6.SCL1.ALTER.NET (157.130.213.173) 10.282 ms 9.652 ms 13.142 ms 3 168.at-5-0-0.XR4.SCL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.52.54) 9.691 ms 10.168 ms 9.997 ms 4 0.so-1-0-0.XL2.SCL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.55.97) 9.978 ms 10.341 ms 9.870 ms 5 0.so-6-0-0.XL2.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.54.142) 15.447 ms 16.494 ms 15.253 ms 6 0.so-3-0-0.XR2.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.54.2) 14.642 ms 15.195 ms 14.934 ms 7 184.ATM7-0.BR3.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.50.197) 15.544 ms 14.990 ms 15.905 ms 8 sjo-brdr-04.inet.qwest.net (205.171.4.97) 28.136 ms 27.808 ms 27.985 ms 9 sjo-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.22.118) 29.459 ms 28.163 ms 27.818 ms 10 sjo-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.22.2) 28.376 ms 27.821 ms 28.014 ms 11 iah-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.5.145) 68.262 ms 68.128 ms 68.277 ms 12 iah-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.31.2) 68.851 ms 69.238 ms 69.663 ms 13 atl-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.5.194) 101.938 ms 103.496 ms 101.837 ms 14 atl-edge-14.inet.qwest.net (205.171.21.182) 94.106 ms 93.772 ms 93.874 ms 15 * * * -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher A. Woodfield Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:56 PM To: Dan Hollis Cc: Daniel Lark; nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: OT: Interesting email I received
Given the latency on the last two hops, I'll bet this is a DSL line, or someone's taken it upon themselves to render whatever circuit they have useless...
-C
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 12:43:10PM -0800, Dan Hollis wrote:
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Daniel Lark wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: National ISP [mailto:admin@national-isp.org] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 3:13 PM To: dlark@elmresources.com Subject: Bulk email ISP National ISP Co. is a business class bulk email friendly ISP. We are dedicated to supporting your company with your email advertising program. Have the "Peace of Mind", knowing that you will not be shut down by your present ISP. our website address is >> WWW.NATIONAL-ISP.ORG
Tracing the route to NATIONAL-ISP.ORG (65.114.61.35) [...] 15 atl-edge-14.inet.qwest.net (205.171.21.182) [AS 209] 132 msec 100
msec 144 msec
16 208.47.124.58 [AS 209] 388 msec 852 msec 608 msec 17 NATIONAL-ISP.ORG (65.114.61.35) [AS 209] 524 msec 584 msec 268 msec
Well, qwest *is* bulk-friendly...
-Dan -- [-] Omae no subete no kichi wa ore no mono da. [-]
-- --------------------------- Christopher A. Woodfield rekoil@semihuman.com
PGP Public Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB887618B
Not so fast...I just pulled it up: traceroute to national-isp.org (65.114.61.35): 1-30 hops, 38 byte packets 7 atl-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.8.153) 20.1 ms (ttl=248!) 19.9 ms (ttl=248!) 19.8 ms (ttl=248!) 8 atl-edge-14.inet.qwest.net (205.171.21.182) 19.3 ms (ttl=247!) 25.9 ms (ttl=247!) 19.4 ms (ttl=247!) 9 208.47.124.58 (208.47.124.58) 35.3 ms 35.4 ms 35.6 ms 10 national-isp.org (65.114.61.35) 36.3 ms 35.4 ms 35.5 ms On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 02:19:41PM -0800, Joe Blanchard wrote:
I just had to call that number on his web page and ask if it was some sort of joke, The guy there "Paul" didn't have any idea that his services were disrupted, and he even seemed excited at the prospect of doing some Bulk/Spam Email for me.
When I mentioned I couldn't get to his webpage He seemed surprised. I ended the convo with "You should really read the TOS with your ISP" <click>
hahaha. I would love to hear the conversation between him and Qwest Tech/Support.
Cheers! -Joe
---------- From: Daniel Lark[SMTP:dlark@elmresources.com] Reply To: dlark@elmresources.com Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:04 PM To: 'Christopher A. Woodfield'; 'Dan Hollis' Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: OT: Interesting email I received
Guess Qwest already yanked 'em. Yay!!!
-dan
traceroute to 65.114.61.35 (65.114.61.35), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 host1.elmresources.com (208.253.213.1) 0.588 ms 0.558 ms 0.474 ms 2 958.Serial1-1.GW6.SCL1.ALTER.NET (157.130.213.173) 10.282 ms 9.652 ms 13.142 ms 3 168.at-5-0-0.XR4.SCL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.52.54) 9.691 ms 10.168 ms 9.997 ms 4 0.so-1-0-0.XL2.SCL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.55.97) 9.978 ms 10.341 ms 9.870 ms 5 0.so-6-0-0.XL2.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.54.142) 15.447 ms 16.494 ms 15.253 ms 6 0.so-3-0-0.XR2.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.54.2) 14.642 ms 15.195 ms 14.934 ms 7 184.ATM7-0.BR3.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.50.197) 15.544 ms 14.990 ms 15.905 ms 8 sjo-brdr-04.inet.qwest.net (205.171.4.97) 28.136 ms 27.808 ms 27.985 ms 9 sjo-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.22.118) 29.459 ms 28.163 ms 27.818 ms 10 sjo-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.22.2) 28.376 ms 27.821 ms 28.014 ms 11 iah-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.5.145) 68.262 ms 68.128 ms 68.277 ms 12 iah-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.31.2) 68.851 ms 69.238 ms 69.663 ms 13 atl-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.5.194) 101.938 ms 103.496 ms 101.837 ms 14 atl-edge-14.inet.qwest.net (205.171.21.182) 94.106 ms 93.772 ms 93.874 ms 15 * * * -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher A. Woodfield Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:56 PM To: Dan Hollis Cc: Daniel Lark; nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: OT: Interesting email I received
Given the latency on the last two hops, I'll bet this is a DSL line, or someone's taken it upon themselves to render whatever circuit they have useless...
-C
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 12:43:10PM -0800, Dan Hollis wrote:
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Daniel Lark wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: National ISP [mailto:admin@national-isp.org] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 3:13 PM To: dlark@elmresources.com Subject: Bulk email ISP National ISP Co. is a business class bulk email friendly ISP. We are dedicated to supporting your company with your email advertising program. Have the "Peace of Mind", knowing that you will not be shut down by your present ISP. our website address is >> WWW.NATIONAL-ISP.ORG
Tracing the route to NATIONAL-ISP.ORG (65.114.61.35) [...] 15 atl-edge-14.inet.qwest.net (205.171.21.182) [AS 209] 132 msec 100
msec 144 msec
16 208.47.124.58 [AS 209] 388 msec 852 msec 608 msec 17 NATIONAL-ISP.ORG (65.114.61.35) [AS 209] 524 msec 584 msec 268 msec
Well, qwest *is* bulk-friendly...
-Dan -- [-] Omae no subete no kichi wa ore no mono da. [-]
-- --------------------------- Christopher A. Woodfield rekoil@semihuman.com
PGP Public Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB887618B
-- --------------------------- Christopher A. Woodfield rekoil@semihuman.com PGP Public Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB887618B
* rekoil@semihuman.com (Christopher A. Woodfield) [Fri 01 Feb 2002, 23:33 CET]:
Not so fast...I just pulled it up: [snip traceroute]
Correct, the page loads now here as well... Disappointing. Curses! Foiled again by a plain ol' network outage. Regards, -- Niels.
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