Using 32 bit ASN numbers
I am doing some research for our company regarding 32 bit ASN numbers. I am trying to locate information about vendor and service provider support. In particular I have not been able to find what Cisco IOS image I would need to load on our router to support 32 bit ASN's. I also want to know what experience people have had with service provider support of 32 bit ASN's -- Brian Raaen Network Engineer braaen@zcorum.com
Cisco IOS XR Software Release 3.4.0 adds support for BGP Authentication Key Chaining, BGP 4-Byte Autonomous System Number (ASN), and BGP Next Hop tracking enhancements. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios_xr_sw/iosxr_r3.4/general/release/notes/r... BGP 4-Byte ASN—Increases the range of supported autonomous systems from 2 bytes to 4 bytes to scale with expected Internet growth. 12.2SR* is supposed to be in late 2008, but has not yet been announced publicly. Juniper it's in JUNOS 9.1 as farr as I can tell. --- On Fri, 8/29/08, Brian Raaen <braaen@zcorum.com> wrote: From: Brian Raaen <braaen@zcorum.com> Subject: Using 32 bit ASN numbers To: nanog@merit.edu Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 11:04 AM I am doing some research for our company regarding 32 bit ASN numbers. I am trying to locate information about vendor and service provider support. In particular I have not been able to find what Cisco IOS image I would need to load on our router to support 32 bit ASN's. I also want to know what experience people have had with service provider support of 32 bit ASN's -- Brian Raaen Network Engineer braaen@zcorum.com
These are the dates I have for Cisco platforms: IOS XR 3.4 - September 2007 IOS 12.0(32)S11 - November 2008 IOS 12.2SRE - December 2008 IOS 12.5(1)T - April 2009 -----Original Message----- From: andy lam [mailto:anwalam@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 11:29 AM To: nanog@merit.edu; Brian Raaen Subject: Re: Using 32 bit ASN numbers Cisco IOS XR Software Release 3.4.0 adds support for BGP Authentication Key Chaining, BGP 4-Byte Autonomous System Number (ASN), and BGP Next Hop tracking enhancements. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios_xr_sw/iosxr_r3.4/general/release/notes/r... BGP 4-Byte ASN-Increases the range of supported autonomous systems from 2 bytes to 4 bytes to scale with expected Internet growth. 12.2SR* is supposed to be in late 2008, but has not yet been announced publicly. Juniper it's in JUNOS 9.1 as farr as I can tell. --- On Fri, 8/29/08, Brian Raaen <braaen@zcorum.com> wrote: From: Brian Raaen <braaen@zcorum.com> Subject: Using 32 bit ASN numbers To: nanog@merit.edu Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 11:04 AM I am doing some research for our company regarding 32 bit ASN numbers. I am trying to locate information about vendor and service provider support. In particular I have not been able to find what Cisco IOS image I would need to load on our router to support 32 bit ASN's. I also want to know what experience people have had with service provider support of 32 bit ASN's -- Brian Raaen Network Engineer braaen@zcorum.com
Pender, One small correction... For 7600, 12.2SR, the support would come out in 12.2SRD Arie On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Pender, James <James.Pender@paetec.com>wrote:
These are the dates I have for Cisco platforms:
IOS XR 3.4 - September 2007 IOS 12.0(32)S11 - November 2008 IOS 12.2SRE - December 2008 IOS 12.5(1)T - April 2009
-----Original Message----- From: andy lam [mailto:anwalam@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 11:29 AM To: nanog@merit.edu; Brian Raaen Subject: Re: Using 32 bit ASN numbers
Cisco IOS XR Software Release 3.4.0 adds support for BGP Authentication Key Chaining, BGP 4-Byte Autonomous System Number (ASN), and BGP Next Hop tracking enhancements.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios_xr_sw/iosxr_r3.4/general/release/notes/r... BGP 4-Byte ASN-Increases the range of supported autonomous systems from 2 bytes to 4 bytes to scale with expected Internet growth.
12.2SR* is supposed to be in late 2008, but has not yet been announced publicly.
Juniper it's in JUNOS 9.1 as farr as I can tell.
--- On Fri, 8/29/08, Brian Raaen <braaen@zcorum.com> wrote:
From: Brian Raaen <braaen@zcorum.com> Subject: Using 32 bit ASN numbers To: nanog@merit.edu Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 11:04 AM
I am doing some research for our company regarding 32 bit ASN numbers. I am trying to locate information about vendor and service provider support. In particular I have not been able to find what Cisco IOS image I would need to load on our router to support 32 bit ASN's. I also want to know what experience people have had with service provider support of 32 bit ASN's
-- Brian Raaen Network Engineer braaen@zcorum.com
Concerning 32 bit AS numbers, are organizations which are granted 32 bit AS numbers given any multicast address space? If so is it possible to figure out what this space is from the ASN ala GLOP (233.ASN.ASN.x)? Thanks, Haven Hash On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Arie Vayner <ariev@vayner.net> wrote:
Pender,
One small correction... For 7600, 12.2SR, the support would come out in 12.2SRD
Arie
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Pender, James <James.Pender@paetec.com
wrote:
These are the dates I have for Cisco platforms:
IOS XR 3.4 - September 2007 IOS 12.0(32)S11 - November 2008 IOS 12.2SRE - December 2008 IOS 12.5(1)T - April 2009
-----Original Message----- From: andy lam [mailto:anwalam@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 11:29 AM To: nanog@merit.edu; Brian Raaen Subject: Re: Using 32 bit ASN numbers
Cisco IOS XR Software Release 3.4.0 adds support for BGP Authentication
Key
Chaining, BGP 4-Byte Autonomous System Number (ASN), and BGP Next Hop tracking enhancements.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios_xr_sw/iosxr_r3.4/general/release/notes/r...
BGP 4-Byte ASN-Increases the range of supported autonomous systems from 2 bytes to 4 bytes to scale with expected Internet growth.
12.2SR* is supposed to be in late 2008, but has not yet been announced publicly.
Juniper it's in JUNOS 9.1 as farr as I can tell.
--- On Fri, 8/29/08, Brian Raaen <braaen@zcorum.com> wrote:
From: Brian Raaen <braaen@zcorum.com> Subject: Using 32 bit ASN numbers To: nanog@merit.edu Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 11:04 AM
I am doing some research for our company regarding 32 bit ASN numbers. I am trying to locate information about vendor and service provider support. In particular I have not been able to find what Cisco IOS image I would need to load on our router to support 32 bit ASN's. I also want to know what experience people have had with service provider support of 32 bit ASN's
-- Brian Raaen Network Engineer braaen@zcorum.com
On Aug 29, 2008, at 4:50 PM, Haven Hash wrote:
Concerning 32 bit AS numbers, are organizations which are granted 32 bit AS numbers given any multicast address space?
If so is it possible to figure out what this space is from the ASN ala GLOP (233.ASN.ASN.x)?
Yes, and yes. The space they are given is the GLOP space ! See http://www.multicasttech.com/faq/#GLOP and http://www.shepfarm.com/multicast/glop.html Regards Marshall
Thanks,
Haven Hash
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Arie Vayner <ariev@vayner.net> wrote:
Pender,
One small correction... For 7600, 12.2SR, the support would come out in 12.2SRD
Arie
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Pender, James <James.Pender@paetec.com
wrote:
These are the dates I have for Cisco platforms:
IOS XR 3.4 - September 2007 IOS 12.0(32)S11 - November 2008 IOS 12.2SRE - December 2008 IOS 12.5(1)T - April 2009
-----Original Message----- From: andy lam [mailto:anwalam@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 11:29 AM To: nanog@merit.edu; Brian Raaen Subject: Re: Using 32 bit ASN numbers
Cisco IOS XR Software Release 3.4.0 adds support for BGP Authentication
Key
Chaining, BGP 4-Byte Autonomous System Number (ASN), and BGP Next Hop tracking enhancements.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios_xr_sw/iosxr_r3.4/general/release/notes/r...
BGP 4-Byte ASN-Increases the range of supported autonomous systems from 2 bytes to 4 bytes to scale with expected Internet growth.
12.2SR* is supposed to be in late 2008, but has not yet been announced publicly.
Juniper it's in JUNOS 9.1 as farr as I can tell.
--- On Fri, 8/29/08, Brian Raaen <braaen@zcorum.com> wrote:
From: Brian Raaen <braaen@zcorum.com> Subject: Using 32 bit ASN numbers To: nanog@merit.edu Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 11:04 AM
I am doing some research for our company regarding 32 bit ASN numbers. I am trying to locate information about vendor and service provider support. In particular I have not been able to find what Cisco IOS image I would need to load on our router to support 32 bit ASN's. I also want to know what experience people have had with service provider support of 32 bit ASN's
-- Brian Raaen Network Engineer braaen@zcorum.com
On Aug 29, 2008, at 4:58 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
On Aug 29, 2008, at 4:50 PM, Haven Hash wrote:
Concerning 32 bit AS numbers, are organizations which are granted 32 bit AS numbers given any multicast address space?
Oh, and there is a plan in the works to accommodate those with 32 bit ASN. Regards Marshall
If so is it possible to figure out what this space is from the ASN ala GLOP (233.ASN.ASN.x)?
Yes, and yes.
The space they are given is the GLOP space !
See
http://www.multicasttech.com/faq/#GLOP
and
http://www.shepfarm.com/multicast/glop.html
Regards Marshall
Thanks,
Haven Hash
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Arie Vayner <ariev@vayner.net> wrote:
Pender,
One small correction... For 7600, 12.2SR, the support would come out in 12.2SRD
Arie
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Pender, James <James.Pender@paetec.com
wrote:
These are the dates I have for Cisco platforms:
IOS XR 3.4 - September 2007 IOS 12.0(32)S11 - November 2008 IOS 12.2SRE - December 2008 IOS 12.5(1)T - April 2009
-----Original Message----- From: andy lam [mailto:anwalam@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 11:29 AM To: nanog@merit.edu; Brian Raaen Subject: Re: Using 32 bit ASN numbers
Cisco IOS XR Software Release 3.4.0 adds support for BGP Authentication
Key
Chaining, BGP 4-Byte Autonomous System Number (ASN), and BGP Next Hop tracking enhancements.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios_xr_sw/iosxr_r3.4/general/release/notes/r...
BGP 4-Byte ASN-Increases the range of supported autonomous systems from 2 bytes to 4 bytes to scale with expected Internet growth.
12.2SR* is supposed to be in late 2008, but has not yet been announced publicly.
Juniper it's in JUNOS 9.1 as farr as I can tell.
--- On Fri, 8/29/08, Brian Raaen <braaen@zcorum.com> wrote:
From: Brian Raaen <braaen@zcorum.com> Subject: Using 32 bit ASN numbers To: nanog@merit.edu Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 11:04 AM
I am doing some research for our company regarding 32 bit ASN numbers. I am trying to locate information about vendor and service provider support. In particular I have not been able to find what Cisco IOS image I would need to load on our router to support 32 bit ASN's. I also want to know what experience people have had with service provider support of 32 bit ASN's
-- Brian Raaen Network Engineer braaen@zcorum.com
Marshal, Since his question was specifically about I don't see the answer in either of the places you referenced.... The calculator didn't like a 32 bit ASN: AS Number Out of Range AS numbers are represented by 16 bits; 65535 maximum in decimal. Back to the GLOP Calculator Return to Shepfarm Multicast shep@shepfarm.com Owen On Aug 29, 2008, at 1:58 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
On Aug 29, 2008, at 4:50 PM, Haven Hash wrote:
Concerning 32 bit AS numbers, are organizations which are granted 32 bit AS numbers given any multicast address space?
If so is it possible to figure out what this space is from the ASN ala GLOP (233.ASN.ASN.x)?
Yes, and yes.
The space they are given is the GLOP space !
See
http://www.multicasttech.com/faq/#GLOP
and
http://www.shepfarm.com/multicast/glop.html
Regards Marshall
Thanks,
Haven Hash
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Arie Vayner <ariev@vayner.net> wrote:
Pender,
One small correction... For 7600, 12.2SR, the support would come out in 12.2SRD
Arie
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Pender, James <James.Pender@paetec.com
wrote:
These are the dates I have for Cisco platforms:
IOS XR 3.4 - September 2007 IOS 12.0(32)S11 - November 2008 IOS 12.2SRE - December 2008 IOS 12.5(1)T - April 2009
-----Original Message----- From: andy lam [mailto:anwalam@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 11:29 AM To: nanog@merit.edu; Brian Raaen Subject: Re: Using 32 bit ASN numbers
Cisco IOS XR Software Release 3.4.0 adds support for BGP Authentication
Key
Chaining, BGP 4-Byte Autonomous System Number (ASN), and BGP Next Hop tracking enhancements.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios_xr_sw/iosxr_r3.4/general/release/notes/r...
BGP 4-Byte ASN-Increases the range of supported autonomous systems from 2 bytes to 4 bytes to scale with expected Internet growth.
12.2SR* is supposed to be in late 2008, but has not yet been announced publicly.
Juniper it's in JUNOS 9.1 as farr as I can tell.
--- On Fri, 8/29/08, Brian Raaen <braaen@zcorum.com> wrote:
From: Brian Raaen <braaen@zcorum.com> Subject: Using 32 bit ASN numbers To: nanog@merit.edu Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 11:04 AM
I am doing some research for our company regarding 32 bit ASN numbers. I am trying to locate information about vendor and service provider support. In particular I have not been able to find what Cisco IOS image I would need to load on our router to support 32 bit ASN's. I also want to know what experience people have had with service provider support of 32 bit ASN's
-- Brian Raaen Network Engineer braaen@zcorum.com
On Aug 29, 2008, at 6:08 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
Marshal,
Since his question was specifically about I don't see the answer in either of the places you referenced....
Sorry, I was too eager to respond. The assignees of the 32 bit ASN will have to ask for space from IANA from the former "eGLOP" space, now the Extended AD-HOC space. There will be no automatic pre-assignment of space, see http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mboned-rfc3171bis-03.txt for details. This has not become an RFC yet, and if people have comments, we welcome them on the MBONED list. Regards Marshall
The calculator didn't like a 32 bit ASN:
AS Number Out of Range AS numbers are represented by 16 bits; 65535 maximum in decimal.
No, likely not. Marshall
Back to the GLOP Calculator Return to Shepfarm Multicast
shep@shepfarm.com
Owen
On Aug 29, 2008, at 1:58 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
On Aug 29, 2008, at 4:50 PM, Haven Hash wrote:
Concerning 32 bit AS numbers, are organizations which are granted 32 bit AS numbers given any multicast address space?
If so is it possible to figure out what this space is from the ASN ala GLOP (233.ASN.ASN.x)?
Yes, and yes.
The space they are given is the GLOP space !
See
http://www.multicasttech.com/faq/#GLOP
and
http://www.shepfarm.com/multicast/glop.html
Regards Marshall
Thanks,
Haven Hash
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Arie Vayner <ariev@vayner.net> wrote:
Pender,
One small correction... For 7600, 12.2SR, the support would come out in 12.2SRD
Arie
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Pender, James <James.Pender@paetec.com
wrote:
These are the dates I have for Cisco platforms:
IOS XR 3.4 - September 2007 IOS 12.0(32)S11 - November 2008 IOS 12.2SRE - December 2008 IOS 12.5(1)T - April 2009
-----Original Message----- From: andy lam [mailto:anwalam@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 11:29 AM To: nanog@merit.edu; Brian Raaen Subject: Re: Using 32 bit ASN numbers
Cisco IOS XR Software Release 3.4.0 adds support for BGP Authentication
Key
Chaining, BGP 4-Byte Autonomous System Number (ASN), and BGP Next Hop tracking enhancements.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios_xr_sw/iosxr_r3.4/general/release/notes/r...
BGP 4-Byte ASN-Increases the range of supported autonomous systems from 2 bytes to 4 bytes to scale with expected Internet growth.
12.2SR* is supposed to be in late 2008, but has not yet been announced publicly.
Juniper it's in JUNOS 9.1 as farr as I can tell.
--- On Fri, 8/29/08, Brian Raaen <braaen@zcorum.com> wrote:
From: Brian Raaen <braaen@zcorum.com> Subject: Using 32 bit ASN numbers To: nanog@merit.edu Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 11:04 AM
I am doing some research for our company regarding 32 bit ASN numbers. I am trying to locate information about vendor and service provider support. In particular I have not been able to find what Cisco IOS image I would need to load on our router to support 32 bit ASN's. I also want to know what experience people have had with service provider support of 32 bit ASN's
-- Brian Raaen Network Engineer braaen@zcorum.com
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